Have I done enough to help this child?

[kewtogetin]

Hi all, I'm going to be sketchy about the details as I don't want to out myself but I will answer any questions you have.
I'm worried about a child, well 2 children actually, in fact worried is not strong enough a word, I'm terrified for them.
They are brothers, 4&7, I know them from my sons school, I see them everyday on the school run and witness the father verbally and (this morning) physically abusing them. This morning he pinned the 4 year old to a wall by his neck, told him to fucking shut up and then stormed off. This was the final straw and i have reported him to SS.
Their have been other incidents, witnessed by myself and others, also reported, I know they are on SS 'radar' so to speak but nothing seems to change/happen.
Incidents include the eldest being kicked in the shins, told he will be thrown in front of a fucking car, picked up by the head and thrown, told 'you're going to suffer when you get home tonight boy'. The boys 'crimes' include whistling and tripping up.....
The father is the most aggressive, threatening man i have ever met, my children witness his behaviour and are terrified of him, my 2 year old calls him 'the naughty Man'
I'm scared for these children but I don't know what else I can do, the mother stands and watches and I've heard her saying 'don't you tell anyone about this or you'll get taken away' and 'if anyone asks you tell them you fell'
I'm at the end of my tether, I dread to think what's happening at home, i feel as though if i witness one more event I'm going to lose it and tell the father exactly what kind of man I know he is, that I'm watching and i know what's going on. Is this a terrible idea?
Is their anything else I can do? Anywhere I can go to help these boys? His aggression is escalating and with the long summer break coming up in genuinely worried for them.

[Sawyer1986]

???? those boys could possibly not live to see their next birthday. They are being failed massively by SS.
I have no sympathy for their so called mother she's a disgrace and just as bad as him. Regardless of what he is. No mother should allow her babies to live like that.

[Aussiemum78]

does he always go on school run? The mum might not be able to escape if he is always with her. Telling her kid he wasn't strangled might be to shield him from being hit again.

I wouldn't assume she is as bad as him, she might genuinely feel if she tries to leave they are dead.

[Superworm]

If the youngest is 4 years old I would contact the health visitor and they will do a home assessment. The more professionals that know about these children the better. Well done for reporting it.

[bottleofbeer]

Oh of course, poor woman must be abused herself. Maybe she's just as much of a bastard as he is. A seven year old with injuries from being kicked in the head? Jesus Christ almighty.

[Alanna1]

I don't know if this is a good idea or not (ask the NSPCC maybe?) but when I went through a tough time at home as a child (not domestic violence - "just" warring divorcing parents) a small number of my schoolfriends' parents opened their doors to me. With hindsight I suspect it was probably organised. They just gave me dinner, and I'd play at their houses / do my homework with their kids / stay over very occasionally etc. Could you do similarly?

[kewtogetin]

Well surprise surprise he was practically Mary poppins this morning. Letting the boys run around and take their coats off, behaviour which previously would have gotten them screamed at. He won't be able to keep it up for long.
The parents saw me but never said anything.

[spidey66]

Poor little mites. It sounds like SS have called round and that's why he's letting his kids be kids. Won't last though.

I do hope they're removed and the kids go with family or foster parents who happen to, like, care about them.

[Sadit]

Sometimes I think the only way to get instant results in horrific situations like this is film and put on social media (not advocating this but feels like only things played out in the public eye get sorted)!
Agree with PPs who say call the police as I'm sure they would involve social services.
Well done op many people would ignore

[TendonQueen]

Keep an eye on them OP. I suspect as you do that the good behaviour won't last. I also think the mum is making up the bit about 40 days as that doesn't seem to be something SS actually do.

Can you talk to other parents who do the school run with you about this? Then others will also be able to report, but also if the dad became confrontational later, it might help to be part of a group - like many bullies he might then be less likely to kick off.

[Wideopenspace]

The thrust of any SS input initially will be for the parents to change their behaviour.
It simply is not as straightforward as "taking the children away" in all but the most extreme cases - and whilst I know this case sounds extreme, there are much worse.

[Aeroflotgirl]

wideopenspace worse . What do they want to happen, something like baby p or Daniel Pelka.