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Re wanting to buy my daughter a rum & raisin ice cream

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DoughDoe · 11/06/2015 23:32

So we went out today to buy ice cream from Thorntons. DD, who is 7, said she wanted rum & raisin ice cream.

Woman (Muslim though I'm not sure if that was a factor in her thinking) behind the till said 'I can't serve her that'.

Bought one ice cream (there were three of us) handed it to DH and told DD & DH to go away so I could buy DD's ice cream without having the woman tell us she couldn't give it to her. DD got upset and refused, because she didn't know what was going on and thought she wasn't going to get any ice cream. So gave up trying to buy more ice creams, and just walked off, and we ended up with just one ice cream between the three of us.

Won't be going back there, either, if this woman is serving.

AIBU to think I should be able to buy my child an ice cream?

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larch101 · 18/06/2015 10:09

From when I worked in a bar many moons ago you could only sell alcohol to minors or to another person for consumption by a minor if they are under 0.5% alcohol content.

Carte D'ors ice cream according to Tescos website contains 1.7% alcohol by volume; bit.ly/1d3xhVf

Sound like the woman actually knew what she was doing, had the required training and had refused the sale on that basis. I doubt religion was a factor at all.

budgiegirl · 18/06/2015 10:25

I can also recall being given home made sherry trifle and sips of wine as a child. I don't think it ever crossed anybodies mind this could be illegal or morally wrong.

That's because it's not illegal, as long as the child is over 5 and in private. But I don't think you could sell a boozy trifle to a child in a restaurant.

ChickenLaVidaLoca · 18/06/2015 10:28

To be fair eyebags I reckon there's a lot of kids who could get a litre of ice cream down them given half a chance?

ChickenLaVidaLoca · 18/06/2015 10:29

That was meant to be an exclamation mark above...

Aermingers · 18/06/2015 10:34

Yes poorly trained. But you'd think she would at least make the effort to check before being needlessly rude to customers.

dominogocatgo · 18/06/2015 10:40

How come people don't like Thornton's chocolate ?

Gileswithachainsaw · 18/06/2015 10:40

Well it wasn't that long ago some ion started a thread saying them.or someone else was refused service of pork products by the cashier in M&s so wondering if a religion played a part is t a huge leap. It's not a negative about a person it's a question.

It's unlikely as these cases are rare. It's more likely to be the is there/isn't there alcohol issue. With the amount t if pressure on staff for compliance I sympathise with this server.

I expect both parties handles it badly. a polite email outlining the issues and asking fir an official answer was the right idea

larch101 · 18/06/2015 10:41

Aermingers hardly poorly trained she was working to the letter of the law, as it was at least when I worked in bars and corner shops!

chocolateyay · 18/06/2015 10:43

Maybe she thought she couldn't sell rum to a minor?

bbcessex · 18/06/2015 10:46

Interesting that some Posters think that OP should have 'checked facts' and answered her own question prior to creating this thread.

Didn't realise that that was the MN law... surely then AIBU would be a very quiet place indeed.....

floatyflo · 18/06/2015 10:48

YABVVVU!!!!

FGS!!

Rum and raisin is gross!

Mint choc chip is much nicer.

budgiegirl · 18/06/2015 10:48

But you'd think she would at least make the effort to check before being needlessly rude to customers.

But if she believed (even incorrectly) that she was following company policy, why would she check? And where does it say that she was rude?

TorrAlexandra · 18/06/2015 10:55

It is a slightly bonkers rule but the OP mentioning the woman being muslim is relevant, as there have been previous instances of Muslim retail workers refusing to sell alcoholic products to shoppers. I don't think that's the case here though, looks like she was just sticking to the rules - but she could have informed you that it was company policy.

larch101 · 18/06/2015 11:27

GOVT ACCUSED OF SELLING ALCOHOLIC PRODUCTS TO KIDS

Home Office Spokeswoman Baroness Williams of Trafford explained the sales of alcoholic ice creams and sorbets were not permitted to be sold to those under 18. - 18th November, 2014

Might be stupid but the shop assistant seems right.

Original poster
DoughDoe · 18/06/2015 11:28

read the whole thread larch. (a) they changed the law in May (b) it only ever applied to selling TO children, never to an adult on behalf of a child

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larch101 · 18/06/2015 11:57

My apologies but also doesn't look like legislation.gov.uk has been updated with the new rules yet either.

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