To start a thread for grumpy old ladies who think things aren't what they used to be

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I'm probably a bit older than the average age on here, and totally emphasised with someone who said, in slightly despairing tones on a thread yesterday 'I sometimes think nobody knows how to behave anymore'.

So:

I think children should stand up for older (60+) people on public transport.
I think weddings should be a 'cut your cloth to suit your measure' exercise.
I think children should be called in by 9pm at latest during the Summer, so that neighbours can get some consideration.

Has nobody mentioned health and safety? And all of the ridiculous made up rules and regulations that are attributed to it?

And the compensation culture that goes hand in hand with the need for insurance and risk assessments and mountains of paperwork with amazingly long reference numbers.

Yes was guessing they were segregated ohWhat I remember a Brian Rix recalling the birth if his oldest son with, I think Downes syndrome,and they were advised to leave him in the hospital and try again. Just awful.

fango you have concussion? Were you banging your head to this thread? only joking hope you are ok?

You think that school was bad in the 70s. It was bloody grim in the 50s when I went to school.
Agree with all that's been said: but what really really winds me up is people on mobility scooters who don't need them, just bloody lazy.

Ooh I like it here. Can I also do food? When did it become such a cheap disposable item? Why can I buy strawberries 24hrs/day for 364 days of the year? Why do people moan about conditions that animals are kept in and then refuse to pay extra for less intensive products? Same about pesticides? Don't want them used but then have a 'sad' photo in the daily mail because they found insects in their salad?

spring I am a cm and am required to have risk assessments for fire, flood, terrorist attack, and what would I do if I was out with the mindees and I broke my leg! 'Ofsted quote'

The was gone machine flooded yesterday but thankfully no mindee drowned. Phew!

Fat acceptance, obesity and excuses for it.

I'm not talking about genuine medical reasons (which is applicable to only a v v small minority of people) but the proliferation of reasons given for being fat from emotional overeating to supposed physical causes.

People in previous generations faced exactly the same issues (crap childhood, neglect, abuse, poverty etc etc) if not often worse and yet they didn't resort to stuffing their faces. I'm sure too that lots of people in the past had under active thyroids and yet they remained slim. Routinely the latter is also offered as a reason.

What's so much worse now that didn't affect previous generations ? It's just gluttony and greed with people convincing themselves that it's a genuine mental health or physical issue and thus beyond their control.

Wouldn't matter if it was just a personal thing that impacted no one else, but obesity is a huge issue in affecting the viability of the NHS as it stands now.

And i think that more children need to be told 'no'. As a parent you don't have to say yes to everything. And switch all of the electronics off!!

It's not just greed. There is a massive proliferation of food and fast food outlets everywhere. It's easier to eat all day long than it was IMO.

Sodu thanks, I will be OK just need a bit more rest.

Fingeron how do you know they don't need them and are lazy?

There are far too many cars on the road. There are far too many journeys made by car.

I was just about to ask the same question to fingeron. How would you know?

fango I am prepared to bet that they were beaten though as were dyslexic kids for poor work.

People taking children to lay flowers at the spot or house where another child has been killed. No connection with them and why would you even tell your child. Bloody nasty behaviour and hoping to be caught on tv cameras themselves.

People who don't dress for the occasion. Jeans at a funeral ffs!

I don't know if I just had a really shit childhood, but I remember the 70s as a truly miserable beige era of crap food, crap TV, itchy nylon clothes, casual disabilism, racism, sexism and homophobia, awful teachers and sitting on the pavement at the end of our road collecting car number plates as entertainment.

It is a good thing that people are pulled up on what they say accusatory - (he's racist, sexist, disablist, not allowed to say/do this), etc. - words matter.

I never knew anyone at my school with special needs or even badly behaved. No tantrums or allergy sufferers. No ADHD. Not sure why but can guarantee you that if you stepped out of line you were slapped and slapped hard.

Really?! I was at school with my cousin who has learning disabilities, he would have been the one who all the other kids shouted, 'Joey' at.

you can't scratch your arse without there being a card to celebrate it these days. not quite true. When you want a card for a newborn foster baby you have to resort to 'Welcome to the world' and when they move on to adoption finding a card for the adopters 'Congratulations on adopting your baby' or, for the child's memory box, something to convey 'goodbye' is quite a challenge. Obviously too much of a niche market.

Fingeronthebutton
I agree, there's an epidemic of people all of a sudden in mobility scooters, strange how both husband and wife both seem to need them at the same time. In our town you see a line of them outside the pound shop while the users whiz round doing the shopping, then hop back into their scooters with their shopping. It's the new craze.

hazeyjane I remember children calling each other Joey.
In the days when I was at school children who had what we now regard as autism or adhd would probably have been hived off to schools for the 'Maladjusted' and therefore were not in mainstream schools. The term 'maladjusted was still in use when I did teacher training in the early 70s, which to modern ears is shocking.
The term 'Educationally subnormal' was still used too.

I never knew anyone at my school with special needs or even badly behaved.

that's because they were all in separate special schools even well in to the 80s and 90s.

Kids needing instant access to fresh drinking water immediately or else of course they will die! Cup your hands under the tap in the toilet ffs.

They have designated water trays in schools. This is Britain not the fucking Sahara desert.

Sun cream if the sun peeps out for an instant. Sun hats, yes I know but try hysteria drives me Batty.

Fucking hell really grumpy now.

Fries no they are chips!

Internet banking, PPI insurance and ambulance chasers.

Halloween now such a huge event. Bollocks.

Or maybe it's called new technology which helps people with mobility needs.

These posts about mobility scooters are a bit depressing. I have real respect for people my age and older and their wisdom so it's a bit disappointing to read such judginess.

People don't seem to be able to wait these days. Babies, particularly little boys, leaving the maternity ward in uncomfortable jeans and bomber jackets. Toddlers 'graduating' from nursery in caps and gown. Proms for 11 yr olds...

Yet in other respects children are infantilised. 'My little baby' - no he's not. He's 10. The competitive paranoia about letting them do anything on their own. Parents taking 18 yr olds to university open days.

And 'hormones'. It's not a new thing. They've been around since the beginning of the human race. And, unless there's something medical going on, they shouldn't be used as an excuse for bad behaviour

miss we know rtft!

But it is now known that sunburn is linked to skin cancer.so sun cream is a very good thing.

Loving this thread, I've not posted anything in yonks. I am becoming more grumpy by the day.

girls school shoes - barely last a term or 2. One pair from a department store lasted 3 weeks. 3 weeks!!
fast food - everywhere, obesity rising massively.

calls which give you an automated message when you pick up the phone

I know someone mentioned upthread, the cost of take away coffee - nuts.

I need to get out more.

I never heard the term Joey? That's interesting. We did have a lad in leg irons who teachers and ourselves referred to as the cripple. Seems terribly now.

Near to us there's an orthopaedic hospital which was referred to as the cripples hospital by my dm. However she also used to go to Lewis's and buy a wool referred to as n...er brown. I remember it clearly and it was labelled as such.

Yes fango I know but it still is a tad ott now. The sun peeps out and brings with it hysteria.

We have lost the don't give a fuck of the 70s and gained the arse clenching of today.

Moderation would have been nice. And commen sense. We bypassed those.

Oh god sod. My husbands aunt got married in the 40s or 50s. Local paper put in a picture of the bridal party and the bridesmaids dresses were described as a lovey n....... brown. I've scoffed at that for years, but apparently it's true.