Parent and child spaces - would you sign this petition?

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A woman has set up a petition for safeguarding parent and parking spaces for under 5s here

Lord above!
There are genuine people suffering on a daily basis with much more impossible things...
op you'll look back one day and realise, that in the grand scheme of things... This registers really small. ;)

No I wouldn't sign. The woman is ridiculous and no way would I indulge her.

No. I don't think they are necessary. In the "old days" we managed fine without them.
I agree with a poster above - if we have to have them they should be relocated to an area at the far side of car parks. Absolutely no need for them to be so close to supermarkets. There are people with physical problems but no blue badge that would be much more deserving of the chance of a space closer to the shop.

No, if a P&C space is free it's a nice bonus, I'm not entitled to one! And she needs to start online shopping, I haven't taken DD to a supermarket for months

No. It's a ridiculous petition. I have 3 DCs and have never needed a P&C space. To compare them to disabled parking bays is ludicrous.

I generally agree that they do not need to be right outside the shop but I did appreciate the location when I was recovering from a c section. Accessible spaces for people who are not disabled but who may have had surgery/broken their leg etc would be more sensible.

TheFairyCaravan, my husband has a blue badge, not me, he uses it alot and it saves alot on parking. My point wasn't that disabled people shouldn't get help with parking, just that it does cost to run a scheme like our councils. He can still use his blue badge for on road parking but if he wants to use car parks he has to buy the additional permit, still saves loads, and if this woman succeeds then I think it should also be self funding as far as cost of permit goes.

I don't mean the permit should be the same as paying for an annual parking permit, which costs about £1,000 round here, but should cover the costs of running the scheme. Hope that makes it clearer.

The main reason I use them is so I can get the door open wide enough to buckle/unbuckle DD into her seat. Often in normal spaces idiots park so close I can't get the door open enough without touching the other car.

They aren't a necessity as when there are none I park as far away as possible where you can often get double spaces or park at the end of a row.

I wouldn't sign this - I think they get absused a lot and should be scrapped or moved further away so they aren't so appealing for the park close, pop ins to use.

I live in a town where they aren't any. Imagine that. Weirdly everyone manages to work round it.

The woman is being ridiculous.

I think EVERYONE ought to ignore the rules and park in the p&C spaces anyway. Ban the bloody things!

Unless you move them to the arse end of the car park and keep them well away from the rest of the parking.

I don't really see the point in p and c parking spaces tbh

No, get off your backside and walk across the car park.

Fucks sake.

I wouldn't sign it. Ds 8 only recently got a blue badge but needed the p +c space more than a toddler does.

Totally ridiculous. I park where there's a space - as long as it's not disabled, then I will park there. Have parked in P&C spaces with and without the kids, and, god forbid, before I even had them.

Childless people are tax payers too. What would happen if someone without children started a petition to ban children from supermarkets at certain times? All hell would break loose. I'd sign!!

More entitled twattery from a certain group of parents.

The supermarket near me does have them at the back of the car park and they still get used by people without kids with them.

It's because the bay's are wider and nobody wants their car sides bashed by other car doors and given that the car park has just increased its number of spaces by a large amount yet not increased the size of the actual car park or changed the driving layout the normal spaces have obviously decreased in size somewhat

P&C spaces haee extra space on either side of the parking space so you've room to open the doors wide to gain access to children in car seats. They don't have to be close to the shop - there just has to be a safe route from the spaces to the shop, ie you shouldn't have to dodge cars. You just need a footpath - one of our supermarkets has a path between two rows of parked cars. If there were further away from the shop, people who didn't need the additional space at the side would be less likely to use them. That would alleviate the problem! No need for a petition. Just need some common sense.

Why can't they increase the size of all parking spaces? Get rid of P&C spaces and make normal spaces bigger. Keep disabled bays close to the shop/pedestrian exists etc.

You mean like the normal spaces used to be several years ago?

I'd sign a banning one as they are a daft idea for the lazy. Just make spaces a little wider or put them right at the end of the car park. If that was the location most people would just use a standard space.

Our local tesco has the p and c spaces up a row moving away from the shop. You can always park in the ones furthest from the shop while people will drive around and sit and wait for one close to the shop!

YABU. I don't have an issue with P&C places but they seem to bring out the entitled twatiness in some people. When they get used in comparison to blue badge spaces, I'm afraid I see red.

If you make it a requirement that P&C places have to have permits and enforcement then shops will stop offering them.
It's shooting yourself in the foot to legislate around this.

I think parent and child spaces are totally unnecessary. So no, I wouldn't.

I find them handy as I have a 2-door car and have to open the door really wide to get DS out in his car seat, but an end-of-row space would do just as well, and I don't especially need them to be near the shops since DS goes into the pram/buggy once he's out of the car.

I remember being tempted to use them when I was pregnant, though, and really felt the effects of every extra 10 yards I had to walk!

I do think that where they are offered they should also be available as an "overflow" for disabled users. I don't get upset if there are none available.

Show me a petition for heavily pregnant women to be able to use P&C parking spaces because THAT I'll sign. Fed up of getting blocked in 'normal' spaces and not being able to get back into my car because they haven't left me enough room to get my heavily-pregnant ass through the driver's side door...