Fallen out with MIL over manners

[WoeIsMee]

I'm really annoyed. I've NC for this.

My MIL had my children today and they've come back saying 'what' instead of 'pardon.' This is because mil told them that 'what' is correct which is clearly wrong - it's 'pardon.'

I'm really annoyed as correct manners are so important, also it's undermined me.

WIBU to ring her and tell her she's wrong and ask her to tell the children that she was wrong?

Yes, they must be bored. Mockery, however, goes both ways.

I think Woe should name change to "What?".

That would be appropriate, I think.

Sorry l forgot the 'c'
Must have got slightly bored myself...

Harpy
Hope you're nearly over the shock now.

Having just taken the time to read back through all my posts on this thread, I am really failing to see why anyone thinks it's a joke.

And it is '...and I'
That's common knowledge surely?

Just give it up now Woe. We're all bored.

I find it amazing you don't know 'what' is correct and won't even consider it to be correct despite MN clarifying. So It's definitely a wind up on your part OP.

Mrs Jones and I went to the shop.
Can you bring the champagne over to Mrs Jones and me.
It depends.

Tandem, did you read the thread? Nothing "correct" about it.

OP you could start a shoes on/off thread for some more interest

I say "what" more than "pardon" (I'm not English) and my other half always tells me off for being rude! :o

I fear that WoeIsMee has other problems too if she really believes, as she says, that saying 'Mrs Jones and I' is always correct 'Mrs Jones and me' is never correct. It obviously depends whether she is saying "Mrs J and I" did something of something happened to "Mrs J and me" unless again she is seeking to wind us all up.

Just give it up now Woe. We're all bored.

Why are you still replying then?
Personally I find grammar and manners very interesting, which is why I've made a point of studying them throughout life.
If you don't then do bog loo off.

I never understand why people complain about being bored on threads but continue posting. Whether the OP is on a wind up or not.

Same with troll hunting.

I also find grammar and manners interesting, that's why I have followed the thread. I find Woe boring! It's a perfectly interesting thread without her posts.

You clearly haven't got as far as subject and object of sentences yet OP, as you don't know how to use 'I' and 'me' correctly

Keep up the studies

HTH

It's a perfectly interesting thread without her posts.

Checkmate

Totally missed the point there, as I too have found it very interesting!

"You clearly haven't got as far as subject and object of sentences yet OP, as you don't know how to use 'I' and 'me' correctly"

Precisely. "Mrs Jones and I went for a walk in the park" is correct.
"The waiter brought the menu over to Mrs Jones and me" is also correct.

Learn the difference. If you're finding it difficult, take 'Mrs Jones' out of the sentences and you should see that "I went for a walk in the park" is correct, as is "The waiter brought the menu over to me"

Ooh, OP, perhaps you could instruct us in the correct usage of my/him/her/yourself and throw your light on the whole who/whom debate!

The former is always correct.
The later is never correct.

Not always. I suggest you just stop digging now, OP -- it's just embarrassing watching you make more and more of a fool of yourself.

The I/me/myself thing is grammar. The what/pardon thing's just snobbery or class distinction.

You wouldn't say "he gave it to I" or "he looked at I" so you don't say "to/at Mrs Jones and I". Grunt explained it above.

You only use "myself" when you're referring to yourself: "I treated myself" is right because it's an action on the self. "You should send it to myself" is a thousand kinds of wrong.
If you wanted a 'self' in that sentence, it would have to be "You should send it to yourself". Otherwise, it's "Send it to me."

'Pardon' isn't wrong; it's just one of the many ways upper-class people differ from everyone else. If you offend 'pardon' people by barking What, you are more ill-mannered than anybody saying Pardon in toff company.

Maybe sit in on a primary literacy lesson, OP? I believe the correct use of I/me is tested in KS2 SATS these days.

In case you were wondering, it is dependent upon whether you are the subject or the object of the sentence.

But of course you know that, as this is all a vair hilair joke.

If this is not a wind up then you are a very ill mannered person.I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt until that post about being brought up to speak incorrectly.How rude.

OP
I hope this is a wind up or I am cringing on your behalf on the "and me" v "and I" comment.

Clearly you should train your children to say something like "I'm sorry, I didn't quite catch what you said. Would you mind repeating it please?"

That way they'll avoid offending anyone.