To hate that Mumsnetters Do This

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Everytime someone says something popular opinion on mumsnet disagrees with they are accused of being stupid and uneducated.

You mainly see it on immigration, Europe and political parties.

These people who namecall never actually argue the point but accuse the poster of being uneducated.

Unless mumsnet changes any form of debate on here is going to be boring.

Yes, this thread is well beyond the op's chance of debating, but her point is still valid. Loads of threads have posters offering their take on a subject, for others to declare that unless they support it numbers, studies, evidence then they can shut up. Op was talking about a mumsnet phenomenon in general, not this thread. I agree with the op. In fact, even on this thread there is a poster calling those who voted conservative stupid. Nobody has asked her for evidence, tory bashing is OK on mumsnet.
It was chummy, FYI.....not cummy.

Ah thanks. My next thought was scummy, would never have got near chummy.

Oh Twerking, I am trying to discuss this with you but pretending that the OP was denied the chance to discuss it is a little preposterous.

She posted an op and buggered off. No debate there.

I meant op wasted her chance to debate, not that she's been driven away....but even so, I think she did have a point. I'm talking about other threads, many posters talk of being flamed, I think that flaming is often done by old regulars, often angry that a new member wants to discuss a subject that they are bored of. Its like they think once they 'do' a subject newbies should be content to read their old thoughts on it and never mention it again. They then bombard the thread with things they feel like chatting about or while the op has often been driven away.

Oh, OK - I misunderstood you.

I guess I disagree with on a few points
Firstly, I think poor behaviour on a thread should be dealt with there.mwe can report, or argue or tell posters they are being rude/aggressive/whatever.
A few posters can turn a thread, a pile on can be reported and mnhq will often appear which again can change the tone.
Secondly - again - blaming regulars is nonsense. There are regulars here who I believe I have never once agreed with. And how do you know who posters are anyway? I could be the OP for all you know. Regulars posting under a long term name are in plain sight. That makes them an easy , sweeping, rather lazy target.
You have no real idea if newbies are newbies and this site has a problem with banned, shit stirring posters returning repeatedly.

I don't disagree with the poor tone on here sometimes but I blame individual posters, not rather randomly 'newbies' or 'regulars'

You can easily tell who is a regular, if I were to start a thread about piercing babies ears in aibu, the first few posts would be stuff like 'not this again' 'yawn' 'odfod' and so on. It would be obvious that the op was new if she wanted to talk about a subject well known on the site.
I guess its not so much who is 'royalty' as such, but there is a definate mindset on here that is never allowed to be challenged. I think, again, the political threads recently show up this nasty side of mumsnet.

I think there are majority views but that exists everywhere people discuss issues.
And again, if you object to dome posters responses, report them.

I challenge posts frequently and no, lots of them are not from regulars.

You seem determined that there is a tight group frightening off new posters. I think you are seeing what you want to.
But I suspect we must agree to disagree. All I would say is that complaining about 'regulars' without challenging individual posts when you see them is not going to help

No...not a tight group....or clique, but more of a party-line that a 'true mumsnetter' toes. Its not a majority view that labour are best political party in this country, but on here if you are Tory or ukip you are treated like dirt. I sound bitter, I know...and I'm dragging up the recent political threads time and again, but they do highlight what I'm trying to say. Perhaps being called scum for not voting the way a 'true mumsnetter' votes has made me bitter.

I think the political threads were incredibly divisive.
I'm genuinely off now but I would urge you to try not to judge lots of poster by those threads. I don't think they were a microcosm, I think they were a clusterfuck.

There isn't even a party line, not really. IF there was, then the threads on e.g. political stuff wouldn't extend as long as they do.

There are a lot of very unhappy people, and a lot of people who are suffering under the "austerity" regime; many of them post on MN. Some of them will be MC on hard times, some won't. It's hard to create a "standard MNer" because in reality, very few posters (if any) would tick all the boxes that people tend to think of applying to their version of "standard MNer".

Start a thread on loo brushes - there'll be a proportion of people who think they're disgusting, and probably the same names will crop up again and again - with a whole lot of others wondering what's wrong with them.
Ditto on removing shoes when entering houses.

EVen things like what Maryz mentioned - there is still a diehard selection of MNers who don't like being told they can't use non-PC fucking offensive language because they "don't mean it like that so it's ok"

And those are only the posters who do post. FOr every one posting on the thread there will be a much larger number of people who don't, for whatever reason.

And that's why this whole "hive mind" bollocks (Or Borg, yes!) pisses me off so much.

I'm fairly regular waste far too much time on here and have been around since 2006. But I have not written, and would not write, 'not this again' type of stuff (would just ignore thread) and I doubt you would recognise me as a 'regular' either.

The political threads were heated because it was a general election. I expect if the Tories lost, they would have been the ones mud slinging, but it's always the way with whoever's lost. Of course they will feel bad and tired and not in the best place emotionally. In those situations I always say the winners, who are in a good place, need to take the moral high ground and have a bit of grace. (I say the same to my kids).

I'm a regular poster and I've never declared my political view on mn. I will challenge on a thread if I think someone is out of order and I will report too.

I will also have a laugh and a joke with whoever wants to. I make my own opinion, am happy to voice it and am happy for others to disagree with me. If the thread descends into a bunfight or keeps going over old ground I'll often abandon it and go talk to someone else.

What I don't like is posters lumping everyone together as 'you lot' because they're not being specific enough to debate with so I might not engage with them much. But if they have a particular example that they want to discuss, fine, we can do that.

I really don't like reverse threads (because the poster is obviously lying from the outset which makes me suspicious of their honesty), goady threads and posters starting a thread and fucking off (as in this case).

It's no wonder we start to chat amongst ourselves when the OP doesn't have the courtesy to join us in it. If we chat about kittens, so what. The thread is for anyone now, OP has abandoned it.

But if they want to come back and explain what their gripe is, I'm happy to chat with them.

HTH

Thumb... thanks for the dual puppy/kitten pic, very cute, what's not to love? One day we might get a dog again, I'd like a cat too. Still too raw for us at the moment.