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To cut of ties with brother for Islamophobic Views?

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Jacobsmum1972 · 16/05/2015 18:30

My brother had become increasingly hateful towards Muslims. His fb feed has been full of British Firsts articles to do with Rotherham and other bad stories linked towards the Islamic community.

He never used to be islamophobic, but really since a year ago he has gotten worse and worse. Which makes me believe groups like Isis and stories like Rotherham are fuelling his hatred.

He is about 10 years younger than me, so is in the islamophobic generation (press name). People who were teens during 9/11 and have had all their adolescent and young adult lives in a climate of fear.

This is not an excuse and obviously not all of he's generation are islamophobic.

I can no longer listen to his lies and hatred. I don't know what to do, I don't want to cause a massive row with my moter and have family tension.

I am not exactly worried that keeping a relationship with my brother will influence my dc beliefs about Muslims as they have been taught what is right and what Is wrong and that not all Muslims are bad etc. Although ds is very worried about me being killed in a terror attack.

What would you do.

Sad
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Stinkersmum · 16/05/2015 19:40

Exactly Moreshabbythanchic - unlike most Islamic countries......

limitedperiodonly · 16/05/2015 19:44

If you strongly disagree with his political and social views OP, then tackle him on them.

I probably wouldn't. But that's me.

But I don't understand why you're asking except in the hope of getting a virtual pat on the back.

Bambambini · 16/05/2015 19:44

Is he criticising Islam and many of its rules and countries with extreme rules or does he just hate every muslim person in the world for being muslim?

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Jacobsmum1972 · 16/05/2015 19:47

He says things like 9/11 was Muslims practising Islam, Rotherham proves that Islam thinks it's superior. Most Muslims are extremist but lie etc

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run2 · 16/05/2015 19:51

But has he just some to these conclusions himself? Uninfluenced?

Charis1 · 16/05/2015 19:56

is your brother expressing extremist views and likely to support violence? If so, you should report him to the police, exactly as we would hope any Muslim expressing extremist views would be , by their families.

extremist Muslims and extremist anti Muslims are equally stupid and dangerous, both to individuals and to peace in our society.

they are exactly the same as each other. Maybe you could point that out to him.

limitedperiodonly · 16/05/2015 19:57

I am baffled about why you are bothered about this.

Is he going to take violent action?

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Jacobsmum1972 · 16/05/2015 20:06

No not going to be violent I don't know why people thought that ???

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Jacobsmum1972 · 16/05/2015 20:07

He has never been violent, he reads the mail as someone asked if he is uninfluenced.

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Stinkersmum · 16/05/2015 20:09

Because if it's only his opinion that worries you enough to think about cutting ties with him, I would offer that you're the extremist, not your brother or the Muslims......

FarFromAnyRoad · 16/05/2015 20:12

Are there any other views that will be non-grata in your eyes and might lead to familial excommunication? If so you should probably warn him.

Look - you might not like his views - I'd guess most right thinking people wouldn't - but it's not illegal to have them. If it was a lot of slightly stupid people would find themselves having their collars felt. Educate him, wait for him to grow up, ignore the FB shit.

floatyflo · 16/05/2015 20:12

I'm surprised at the majority of the posts on here. I don't think they understand what the OP is trying to get across.

I do understand the 'islamaphobia generation' term she used. But don't think it was meant to refer to a group of people of a certain age but rather a certain time. A time where there is hatred and xenophobia. Where I live there are a huge amount of anti-Muslim attitudes. And I mean people that HATE ALL Muslims. People that (have now been deleted might I add.) have commented on pictures of Muslim women wearing burkas saying "Kill that cunt." and "send them back to wherever they fucking came from!".

I don't know why people who think like this do so. It's def not people of a certain age though. It's men and women of all ages. Is it class? Education?

limitedperiodonly · 16/05/2015 20:21

He's not violent but he is a Daily Mail reader Grin

I've often been driven to murderous rages by reading the insufferable Quentin Letts or those The Way I See It or more appropriately called Up My Back Passage pieces by Robert Hardman.

You have to be a Mail devotee to get the references.

I've never acted upon it.

Are you for real OP?

Ignore him or don't.

Who cares?

Do you want a fucking medal?

Barbadosgirl · 16/05/2015 20:21

limitedperiodonly why are you baffled about the fact the OP "is bothered" about her brother expressing such bigoted views about a whole range of people simply because of their religion? OP, I am baffled that so many people think this is no big deal. I would be horrified and very torn and would not want my children influenced by this. Not because I am "right on" but because I think it is wrong.

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Jacobsmum1972 · 16/05/2015 20:27

It appears that it's seems alright in some circles to be islamophobic. A lot of people will think terrible of you if you are racist to say a black person but if your islamophobic it seems okay. Britains first has 750, 000 fb likes Shock.

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limitedperiodonly · 16/05/2015 20:27

Because I think she is looking for a virtual pat on the back Barbadosgirl and I'm tired of it.

As it happens I don't agree with the views that her brother has expressed.

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Jacobsmum1972 · 16/05/2015 20:28

I agree Barbados girl. Thank you.

Of course I'm real Hmm

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floatyflo · 16/05/2015 20:30

Because I think she is looking for a virtual pat on the back Barbadosgirl and I'm tired of it.

Oh bog off.
If you have very little constructive to add to the thread, and really think the OP is just gloating somehow, then why bother commenting???

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Jacobsmum1972 · 16/05/2015 20:31

For the person who pointed out I spelt islamophobic wrong, we all make spelling mistakes, pointing them out to embarrass proves what little self esteem you have.

Hope you feel good about your cheap dig Limited

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Jacobsmum1972 · 16/05/2015 20:32

And also it's not like I have continuously spelt it wrong.

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Jacobsmum1972 · 16/05/2015 20:34

I'm not looking for a pat on the back, I'm looking for advice to repair the relationship I have with my brother.

I have read other threads before posting and posters say cut them off repeatedly.

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AuntyMag10 · 16/05/2015 20:37

Get over yourself. Not everyone will agree with your views. You're willing to cut your family member off over this? Simply change the topic. Seriously you won't get a medal for cutting him off.

limitedperiodonly · 16/05/2015 20:41

I didn't correct your spelling and don't think I made a cheap dig OP.

If you want to point that out, I'll answer you.

Simply put, if you want to tackle your brother on his attitudes, then do it.

I wouldn't do that but I agree with you that I'd disagree with his views too.

But I suspect you just want to parade it on MN

TheDietStartsTomorrow · 16/05/2015 20:42

For those of you who are suggesting the OP is just looking for a pat on the back for being PC or that he's entitled to his opinion, would you say the same if her brother was being racist?

A bigot is a bigot and no one wants to be friends with an extremist. Muslims also have the right to be judged on their individual actions and not on what you perceive their beliefs to be.

Moreshabbythanchic · 16/05/2015 20:42

You don't know everyone of every religion/ race/ colour but you do know your DB, There is good and bad in everyone and blood is thicker than water, the choice is yours OP, its not up to us decide where your loyalties lie.

I know where were mine would be.