Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

[FineDamBeaver]

It's all just sinking in, and the other political threads are too eloquent for what I want to express this morning.

Oh tits. This is rubbish.

They say they have to make £12 billion in cuts but why don't they just end all foreign aid which is the equivalent of £12 billion in cuts or just stop tax avoidance for the rich? Oh...

It's going to be 5 years of the rich getting even richer (without having to lift a finger via asset inflation) and the poor/working middle classes being thoroughly shafted.

angemorange
I grew up under Thatcher too but at least she had the North Sea Oil to fund the selling off the country's silver. We have fuck all left. And a deficit. Caused by Tories bankers

I think being glad that there hasn't been a nuclear apocalypse and that the UK isn't a third world country is setting the bar a little low, isn't it?

The country and the poor will be much better off under the Tories. Anyone worried about that need not be worried.

I don't get child benefit anyway not that the Tories have said they will axe it. I am self employed so don't get things like maternity rights either. Don't assume all the hard working highest paying tax payers get things like child benefit, tax credits, maternity rights. Those of us keeping the less well off to the standard to which they are used don't get those things you take for granted! We don't even get sick or holiday pay. I work about 50 weeks a year and usually 6 to 7 days a week,. i don't resent and I've not had any maternity leave despite having 5 children and I generate a lot of tax and I am sure the country will be better off under the Tories who fundamentally support the welfare state and will do a lot of good for Britain.

The suggestion that Tory policies will cut the birth rate is going a bit far. Most people have 1 or 2 children as that is all they can afford. That is not going to change under the Tories. All parties have tackled the pensions issue by older retirement ages.

Well, that depends wether your skint, rich, well or sick didn't it really? And yes it will be different, it will be worse hth.

Like a pp said - It makes me not want to be English anymore. How did we become such a selfish nation and think that it's ok? Thatcher's legacy - legitimised greed and destruction of society. What a fucking shame.
Gutted.

Those of us keeping the less well off to the standard to which they are used don't get those things you take for granted!

Oh... are we supposed to tip our hat to you or something?

Unbelievable.

I was going to start a thread with exactly the same title!!!!
BTW

supposed to be remembering VE day. so they fought and lost lives

For our freedom?

so that 70 year son in 2015 there are :

queues for food banks.

Homelessness.

a stretched and failing NHS.

money taken from the poor to feed and clothe the rich.

greedy bankers and politicians and monarchy. (have they torn up the magna carta then?)

terrorism.

BLATANT AND OBVIOUS DISABLISM.

over run schools and gPs .

mass immigration.

blatant pisstaking of the benefit system so the genuine are punished for it.

people killing thmselves as they made destitute by the greed of those at the top.

thanks everyone who voted for the scumeron.

thank you very very much.

mybe one day all the fuckers will get their comeuppance and the shoe will be on the other foot.

oh, sorry, not a shoe, a wheelchair, a crutch, a starving family.

and all the rememberance of VE day is overshadowed by THIS.

fucking fucking fucking fuck shit.

Im sooooooo fucking raging with anger.

I know I am late to this thread. I just feel depressed and despondent and I don't know what to do. How did this happen? How did the majority of the voting public think this was a good idea? I don't despair easily, but today I actually despair :(

Me too, I was upset and sad earlier. I'm fucking angry now.

Alice you are quite right. How ignorant of me not to have realised that a thread titled 'fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck' was obviously going to be about how shit it is the Tories won

Its just i've lost count of the number of threads and posts i've seen today overdramatising the result and what it means for the country. The fact is many people (36%) to be exact wanted Tories to run our government. Why should they be ignored? Yes FPTP isn't perfect, but no voting system is perfect and FPTP is the one we've chosen and we must stand by the outcome. If Labour had won by 36% would these people (generic reference to people complaining about FPTP) still be outraged? And i've seen hardly any outraged on behalf of UKIP comments. They were the most hard done by if you want to complain about FPTP

I'm still too sad to be angry. Some of the people who voted Tory must be the same people who will be hit hardest by their policies. It's like the Ragged Trousered Philanthropists come to life.

Those of us that have legitimate concerns because we are dealing with disabilities and other issues have every right to vent a bit. Oh, and my disabled child is the one in this household who does the hand wringing and knicker wetting (and gets hysterical as well). But by all means, feel free to be shitty...... hmm

Exactly this ^^.

And I thought it was neck and neck till last night- know whos neck id want on the block!!!!!!!!!!!!

MrsFring sadly they have stopped listening again to their core voters and that makes me so mad.

Labour have handed victory right to the Tories because like people on this thread they don't listen. They hurl insults and become completely unbalanced and hysterical when anyone dares to remind them that things like free school meals for all children and paternity leave is lovely but it has to be paid for at the expense of someone else.

They disgracefully ignored many working people, disabled people who can and can't work too and see what happens they vote UKIP, SNP, Green etc.

Absolutely maddening.

Lotus I presume you have the luxury of choosing to be self employed and choosing to have 5 children even though you wouldn't get maternity benefits though.

I'd have liked more than one child, but couldn't afford to provide for more than one in the way of have liked so just had one.

I'd love to be able to give up work & become self employed - unfortunately my DH doesn't earn enough for me to take & chance on doing that and we are qualify for no state help at all, even though our combined income is only in the region of £30k pa.

I still consider us lucky - we both bought property in the mid nineties which means we have a relatively small mortgage now, we both have jobs, we have food on the table and I get free prescriptions for a long term health problem.

How people less fortunate than us through no fault of their own manage I have no idea.

People should not be having to exist in the way they do as a result of the last 5 years of Tory government. I dread to think where we'll be by 2020.

If we had proportional representation we'd have Tory,UKIP,DUP government. No thanks.

Alice i never once said you didnt have the right to be concerned, i did say everyone had the right to vote for who they wanted for their own reasons. This is how democracy works. We vote, we count, we're governed by the winners. We voted, conservatives won, and i dont believe that this is going to end in the damnation of the UK which is what the posts i've 'had it up to here' with were insinuating. I truly hope that a concerns you have about a conservative government dont come into fruition. But if they do, in 5 years we'll go to the polls again and maybe the outcome will be different.

Given that only 15% of working people in the UK are self-employed, and on average earn £207 a week, I'd say the proportion of self-employed higher and top rate tax payers is small. The majority of net contributors ARE entitled to maternity pay, sick pay and paid holiday time.

So "those of us keeping keeping the less well off to the standard to which they are used don't get those things" is mostly bollocks.

inDedpair on your list just remember terrorism hasn't been improved by Tony Blaires little adventures with George.

Oh of course Tony wasn't a real labour leader was he. That's been said earlier.

I truly hope that a concerns you have about a conservative government dont come into fruition. But if they do, in 5 years we'll go to the polls again and maybe the outcome will be different.

And will you be able to return the 5 years of damage that will do to my child's mental health as his support and any available services for him are taken away? He's 8 now. 5 years?? It's very easy for you to say "it's 5 years, if they do a shit job and decimate mental health care and support for the disabled then in 5 years we'll vote again and maybe the outcome will be different." Then again, maybe it won't. But yep, that's okay. It's only 5 years. A lifetime for my child. 5 years that will make a huge difference.

But hey, you can all whinge about us being concerned and voicing it, you can be condescending and pat us on the head and say "it's only 5 years, then there'll be another vote," but you can't erase five years of substandard care for my ds, five years of fighting again and again for appropriate support for him, five years of fighting to get assessments and services that should be routinely available but aren't because the NHS is being pared to the bone. When my ds is struggling with his mental health and says he wants to die, do you think saying "it's only 5 years, then you can get appropriate mental health help?" will do any good?

FFS.

Alice

Truly sorry for your difficulties but the truth is children's mental health services were as bad under labour.

I worked in the NHS as a nurse in mental health services in the 80/90s. No better then under either government.

op, yanbu

Yanbu. Fuckety fuck.