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To think you shouldn't insult someone just because they voted differently to you?

362 replies

ibitemythumbatyou · 08/05/2015 09:23

It feels like a lot of you would feel more at home in a dictatorship.

I've seen people being called stupid, selfish etc just because they decided to vote differently

I don't care who anyone voted for. I do care that we are a nation that allows everyone to vote for who they want without the threat of violence.

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TondelayoSchwarzkopf · 08/05/2015 09:50

Yes I wish the Tories would make up their mind about Labour voters. Are we jackbooted dictators barring people from the polling stations? Or are we weepy am dram queens?

AliaMairns · 08/05/2015 09:53

"Everyone is allowed to choose who they want to vote for, unless I disagree in which case you have ruined the country"

This is the general feel I am getting from my Facebook today!!

RainbowFlutterby · 08/05/2015 09:54

What some don't seem to understand is that not all Tory voters are rich.

In my family's position a Labour government would put us in to the category that you believe a Tory government will crush.

Why is voting for a government that will keep us bobbing along instead of one that will send us under such a wrong thing to do?

VikingLady · 08/05/2015 09:58

I'm happy to insult Ukip voters. Especially those who Ukip's policies would directly hurt but who voted for them anyway because they were too fuckwitted to read the whole manifesto.

Thurlow · 08/05/2015 09:59

YANBU.

I'm startled, but not entirely surprised, by some of the vitriol on MN when I've had a quick flick through this morning.

People vote for the party that they feel will do the best both for them and for the country over the next few years.

The thing is, however, that we all have different priorities. I can understand from reading posts why some posters are very worried about a Tory government. But blaming people who then voted Tory, calling them selfish?

Voting Tory does not equal not giving a shit about the greater good. It does not mean a voter voted entirely selfishly. They just voted for different reasons than another voted.

Everyone has different aims, beliefs, and desires from and for their future government.

We're just all different.

Kewcumber · 08/05/2015 10:01

The problem with availing yourself of the right to freedom of speech and aggressively/vitiolically "talking" at people who don't agree with your vote is that eventually, as can be seen even on an anonymous forum like MN, people just stop telling you how they vote or trying to defend it. They stay silent.

Then everyone left shouting about their rights start believing that everyone agrees with them and there is no genuine discussion left about why people vote in a certain way and the opposition are left not really understanding what went wrong and why such a large part of the population don't trust Labour to run the country. And now a large chunk of the country will be running scared from PR with the 9.5% of the vote that UKIP got, so Labour really has no choice but to really re-engage with those who have drifted away into what they think is a more credible party. Shouting at everyone who doesn't vote Labour that they're idiots isn't working (in case you hadn't noticed).

You shoot yourself in the foot by being so vitriolic and don't exactly carry a flag for Labour, it reinforces peoples concerns.

But that is indeed people's right - freedom of speech and all that.

Kewcumber · 08/05/2015 10:06

And just in case anyone tries to work out from that post which way I vote, you can't! And it wouldn't be possible for me to vote for a party which would make me worse off, unless parties have a policy of stealing furniture out of your house. They'd be welcome to my overdraft.

Thurlow · 08/05/2015 10:10

Good point, Kew. I find it really interesting that the pre-election polls didn't predict a Tory majority. A lot of people, I suspect, kept the fact that they were voting Tory to themselves. I wonder why? Were they ashamed, as many Labour and SNP voters would suggest? Or did they not want to get into arguments with other people?

I don't know either way. But I do find it fascinating that this year there seem to have been a huge number of 'secret' Tory voters.

pilates · 08/05/2015 10:13

YANBU

I think a lot of the aggressive Labour supporters on this board should listen to the speech Ed Balls made when he lost his seat. He was very humble and dignified. Respect to him.

Downtheroadfirstonleft · 08/05/2015 10:14

Yanbu.

It is rude and childish, but I suppose understandable as some people are upset and probably v tired (I certainly am). Maybe we are all channelling our inner 3 year old, lol!

Mrsjayy · 08/05/2015 10:14

Try being Scottish today thats a hoot its all our fault apparently I might need to name change not go on facebook and canel my holiday to England Grin

AmberNectarine · 08/05/2015 10:15

you are ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY not being unreasonable.

Mrsjayy · 08/05/2015 10:15

Cancel even

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 08/05/2015 10:18

You are NOT being unreasonable. Agree with IKnow and countless others.

How patronising some of the posters on this thread are... "Some people need telling". Oh do they? Hmm... how about piping down and letting other people vote in the democratic system we have?

Aermingers · 08/05/2015 10:23

Actually the brown shirts started off much the same way. Communists were ostracised, abused, threatened. If people admitted to being a communist it would affect their employment prospects and chances of promotion. For example it would be very hard to get promoted in the. NHS for example as an open Tory.

They were also banned from speaking out, books that they disagreed with were burned (which was probably pretty much the contemporary equivalent of an Internet flaming).

Ditto the Stasi, making life difficult for those who wouldn't toe the party line.

Why do you think there are 'shy Tories' and not shy Labour? Because Labour voters will openly impose social sanction on people who don't vote for them. This morning I've seen people saying they will de friend all Tory voter, calling them names.

I didn't actually vote Tory, I voted Lib Dem. But I think this suppression of opposing viewpoints is dangerous. For example the police being called every time Katie Hopkins opens her mouth.

Labour voters seem to think it's fine for them and their supporters to behave like that because they think they are right and their opponents deserve it. But that's the same attitude that leads to regimes which persecute political opponents.

OfaFrenchMind · 08/05/2015 10:23

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe I have seen that so much!
Yes, because a Fuckwit on MN is not going to be the one to educate me on politics and macroeconomics...

Anyway, don't care, I cannot vote for these elections. But we have the same "democrats" in France...

Crinkle77 · 08/05/2015 10:26

I have already been referred to as 'scum' this morning for my vote albeit in a jokey way but I wouldn't dream of referring to anyone else that way.

MoominKoalaAndMiniMoom · 08/05/2015 10:27

Yet another thread calling people sour grapes for worrying about the poorest in society, some of whom now face extreme poverty and potentially death.

Calling it sour grapes like it's the fucking X Factor results is not only stupid, it's insulting, but not a surprise. I'd say I'm sorry if that offends you, but I'm not.

WoodliceCollection · 08/05/2015 10:29

YABU, and massively so. There is a huge difference between being called selfish for how you voted, and being prevented from voting. It's hysterical and silly to try and pretend the two are the same. If you voted in a way other people believe is selfish, you at least should have the courage of your convictions and stand up for your reasons, rather than demand that no one is allowed to criticise your political choices (criticising personal choices is another matter, and that would be bullying, but politics is about debate ffs).

IKnowIAmButWhatAreYou · 08/05/2015 10:30

some of whom now face extreme poverty and potentially death.

And this tired old rhetoric is another reason people keep quiet.

Tired of being called "babykiller" by Leftists who use any old bullshit to further "the cause".....

Cockbollocks · 08/05/2015 10:31

This is why the opinion polls got it wrong, tory voters dare not admit to voting tory.

CactusAnnie · 08/05/2015 10:31

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Aermingers · 08/05/2015 10:31

It is sour grapes. And people who vote Tory don't necessarily hate poor people. They just don't think that the best way to help them get a good standard of living is by giving them handouts for doing nothing and making working too costly an option for millions of people.

squoosh · 08/05/2015 10:34

YABU.

It's politics and feelings run high. Especially at the utterly grim thought of another Tory government. I think people are entitled to feel sore for a couple of days.

If you got the result you wanted that should be enough. Turn off the computer if your feelings are being hurt.

OfaFrenchMind · 08/05/2015 10:36

MoominKoalaAndMiniMoom Yet, time to re install the workhouses and the chimney sweep. And automatic cullings of the weak... Hmm
Come on, stop the scaremongering! We tire of this dishonest guilt-tripping from the Labour supporters!

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