To worry I'm going to get seriously depressed as the night goes on

[Seeingthebeautyineveryminute]

I have a sicky feeling in the pit of my stomach that we are going to be lumbered with 5 more years of Tory rule. Please let it not be so.

Plenty if people have given very valid reasons for voting Tory but these are generally ignored on mumsnet as we must all be poor and disabled hating bastards. Not people who just have a different view on how best to run the nation, for everyone.

"Not getting involved with you anyway after your claims in another thread, earlier this week about sexual assaults. Pretty sure you are a full time troll on here."

Excuse me? Please clarify.

Tbh I think the 'people who voted tory are selfish/misinformed/ too thick to think for themselves/ taken in by murdoch' argument is ridiculous and ignorant.

As a labour voter I am appalled at people saying things like that.

Maybe the reason so many did is that Labour broke peoples trust and their campaign and leader were not enough to convince people to trust them again. Pains me to say it but Labour failed.

Shewept I have met many Tory voters who are all of those things you stated.

Exactly Fango where are people's principles. It's a vote for the party not the person.

I beg to differ to an extent. Balls is a good example. Could I support a personality with the purse strings who didn't see the banking crisis coming and was a lead advice to Brown and responsible for some of the worst problems left by Labour? No because it comes down to whether I could trust them to deliver their manifesto. If I can't then it doesn't matter what the manifesto says.

I might want pink unicorns, the manifesto might say they will give me pink unicorns, but if pink unicorns don't exist its a mute point.

It doesn't necessarily mean I believe in the policies of another party more than the proposed ones by the Labour party. It merely means that I don't think the manifesto is worth a great deal.

Redtoothbrush your point is fair enough.

My point was that to then go and vote Tory is a complete abandonment of principles.

Or did you just jump to that conclusion Fanjo which seems to be the case on mumsnet at the moment.

I have voted Labour before and I have voted Tory in the last 2 elections. I open to changing my allegiances based on what I think is best for the country not just for me and Ed and Labour were completely unconvincing and out of touch this time. The party would do well to sit up and listen to what the electorate are telling then rather than sticking their fingers in their ears singing la la la and assuming all Tory voters are selfish/thick/baby eaters

But lots of people didn't. They lodged a protest vote with UKIP. Which is more why Labour didn't gain seats and lost a lot too.

No I didn't far.

Shewept I have met many Tory voters who are all of those things you stated.

Really? You met all the tory voters? Some maybe, not all. I have met plenty of labours voters who vote labour because their Dad did but have no idea about what they are proposing, they just vote who they are expected to vote for. Doesn't mean all Labour voters are like that.

Have this many party leaders ever resigned in a single day before?

Did I say I met all the Tory voters? No I did not.

Actually maybe I did meet all the Scottish ones.

I voted Labour in 1997, 2001, 2005 and 2010. I didn't this time because I didn't have faith in the leadership because they were not a strong opposition. I also think that they have moved slightly too much to the left.

Too many supporters of Labour as demonstrated on this thread are not open minded enough and have that closed minded attitude that Gordon Brown showed when he called that woman a bigot. If people want to encourage others to vote Labour they need to stop shouting everyone down for having a different view. It is after all supposed to be a democracy.

Hakluyt."Excuse me? Please clarify."

I'm not linking threads, and it's not done to cross link to shoot down a posters opinion. You know which one, the school letter, and I won't dignify what you implied within it by repeating it here where it isn't relevant.

Well, the country has spoken and saved us from a labour nightmare...

"Hakluyt."Excuse me? Please clarify."

I'm not linking threads, and it's not done to cross link to shoot down a posters opinion. You know which one, the school letter, and I won't dignify what you implied within it by repeating it here where it isn't relevant."

Well, you were the one who brought it up. You completely misunderstood me. Please go back to the thread, read what I actually said. Then come back here and apologize.

Did I say I met all the Tory voters? No I did not.

Apologies, can you explain the point you were trying make?

We all know some people who vote for all the parties are ill informed. To suggest ALL Tory voters did so for the reasons i listed is ignorant, imo. Which is what people on here have being doing for weeks and on this thread. That was my point.

You met all the Scottish Tory voters?....at least it passed 15 minutes for you

Too many supporters of Labour as demonstrated on this thread are not open minded enough and have that closed minded attitude that Gordon Brown showed when he called that woman a bigot. If people want to encourage others to vote Labour they need to stop shouting everyone down for having a different view. It is after all supposed to be a democracy.

Exactly this. I think the Labour party and many of its supporters need to be aware of this.

Well with this result I know DP and myself will very likely be unemployed within 12 months, we both work in social care. Him with homeless people and me with disabled children. So yes I feel very sick

Am loving seeing all the gobby labour supporters put in their places this morning, especially some of the sanctimonious drivel I have seen on my facebook feed this last week.
Am sick of the over the top shouty left wingers acting like they are all saints and conservatives are just a bunch of evil fat cats. It is such a simplistic view. I find it quite offensive. Love that people have quietly gone and voted conservative despite all that crap.
It is the best ting for the future of our economy and our childrens future so there.

I hope you or one of your kids never get seriously ill or become disabled, you will eat those words....,,,,..

I know bettykatkitten. My job is under threat working with families from low socio economic groups to help them out of poverty.

Also bye bye libraries, leisure centres, investment in schools, social housing, meals on wheels etc etc. all services that aren't sexy but are vital to support our most vulnerable people.

It is the best ting for the future of our economy and our childrens future so there.

Oh well, since you've said 'so there' like a petulant 5 year old I'm totally convinced!

Bodicea with all due respect, good for you that this government may be the best for you. It probably leaves me a few quid better off too. Remarkably this doesn't make me a Tory. Empathy and altruism are more important to me.

Empathy and altruism are more important to me.

That kind of attitude and assumptions over the past few weeks is what made the earlier polls so wrong.