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To worry I'm going to get seriously depressed as the night goes on

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Seeingthebeautyineveryminute · 07/05/2015 22:03

I have a sicky feeling in the pit of my stomach that we are going to be lumbered with 5 more years of Tory rule. Please let it not be so.

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Mrsstarlord · 08/05/2015 07:02

There is one viable right wing option, there are many liberal / more left wing options - the right vote is concentrated on one party, the others are diluted across many.
And you only have to read some of the posts on here to see how the media has affected people's views on benefits in particular. This odd idea that we have a society or workshy scroungers is pure daily mail / benefits street / Jeremy Kyle bullshit.

The80sweregreat · 08/05/2015 07:03

It was the mail wot won it..

shewept · 08/05/2015 07:03

Jam I am sorry but that's ridiculous. So many people who labour claimed to want to help, didn't (by all accounts vote) and you are saying its because they believed the newspapers.

I voted labour because I have a good labour MP, but the failing has to be in part labours fault.

frankbough · 08/05/2015 07:04

I voted tory, why , because I run two small businesses and feel that people should look after themselves instead of relying on the state..

I grew up poor, no branded trainers or clothes, no holidays abroad, very little in the way of toys, left school got a trade, which enabled me to now earn money to feed MYSELF AND MY FAMILY.

The state should not be there for every ridiculous life style choice people make, the state needs to stop subsiding the population..

Apart from the fact Miliband was never going to win any election he just doesn't have the presence like Blair had..

ClashCityRocker · 08/05/2015 07:04

The trouble is, labour have waged quite a negative campaign - it's been much more 'boo-nasty Tories!' than any sort of good reasons why they should vote Labour.

I was on benefits during the last labour government and it was a joke. Going to sign on - 'have you been looking for work?' 'Yup' 'ok, great see you in a fortnight'. Labour were far too lax with the out of work/non-sickness related benefits and are now paying the price.

I like a lot of the ideas of the benefit reforms - of course you should be sanctioned if you aren't looking for work - however they have been implemented terribly.

The idea behind the incapacity benefits is also sound, but again, has been implemented badly. It took the best part of a year for my mother to receive the benefits she was entitled to when she became disabled - and for want of a better word, she has a very 'obvious' disability so I dread to think how someone who had mental health issues or an invisible disability would a) manage to convince them that they were not able to work and b) cope with the process.

I was neither a labour or conservative voter but I'm not to worried about a Tory government. However I think there needs to be better protection for those who are not able to work.

fixedit · 08/05/2015 07:04

I thought people saw through the benefits street bullshit. Clearly not. Fucking dicks. This country Is so corrupt it's unreal.

Cherrybakewell33 · 08/05/2015 07:05

It's awful bullshit mrs. I hear loads of people trotting out the workshy scroungers line and it just makes me sad that people are so taken in with tory propaganda used to justify their cuts.

shewept · 08/05/2015 07:05

Labour has a lot of support in the section of people who didn't vote. Labour need to look at why they didn't come out to support them.

eyebags63 · 08/05/2015 07:08

It is quite shocking the number of people who buy into the Daily mail line on 'benefit scroungers'.

ClashCityRocker · 08/05/2015 07:08

*too

I just think Labour (and labour supporters) have shot themselves in the foot by trying to paint David Cameron and Tory voters in general as the devil incarnate.

saoirse31 · 08/05/2015 07:09

Great result for SNP. Probably a tory govt is better long term for them. Cameron will have to run an eu referendum now as he'll have to rely on eu sceptics in tory party. If UK votes to leave there'll be demand for scottish referendum to leave uk.

Labour have only themselves to blame for Scottish losses- you reap what you saw etc.

Probably the sad fact, Imo anyway, is that English voters are tending to be getting more conservative and that it may be v difficult for labour to win again in short to mid term. Tony Blair has lot to answer for Imo, he destroyed the image of labour party as a party with principles and this is what happens. Also tho society has changed. Was shocked at some other thread where someone said schools in UK don't have any type of political education ie how politics works etc as part of curriculum. Irrespective of anything else you should change that.

fixedit · 08/05/2015 07:09

Frankborough And that's the gullible bullshit that gets us leaders that give not a fuck about the little people. Ha benefits should not be a lifestyle zzzz I work 60 hour weeks and still have to claim some benefits because minimum wage is so low. Absolute lifestyle choice here though, I love having to plan when I can buy the kids uniforms and managing to scrape together 1 fucking seaside holiday a year. Eurgh.

Hillingdon · 08/05/2015 07:10

Fixed it. Rather rude just because the results didn't go the way you wanted. Labour are finished. Ed will resign. Looks like David C will get as majority?

And I do agree with Frank.

The80sweregreat · 08/05/2015 07:10

It is corrupt. Osborne going on about finishing the job. Of screwing anyone who is sick, poor , disabled, the working poor who really struggle. Anyone who doesnt have millions in the bank or tiaras in the not so safe hatton garden.

soverylucky · 08/05/2015 07:11

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fixedit · 08/05/2015 07:12

No, what is rude is generalizing anyone who has to claim a benefit.

19lottie82 · 08/05/2015 07:13

I voted Tory. To the people that are saying they don't know anyone who voted Tory, well I think you did, quite a few people in fact. Do you really know who all your friends / colleagues voted for? Because I dont.

eyebags63 · 08/05/2015 07:13

Tories will just slash everything with glee now. NHS will be destroyed, working benefits cut, council/social housing flogged off to the highest bidder.... etc etc.

shewept · 08/05/2015 07:14

I also think the snp did ed milliband alot of damage. He kept saying no deal and NS kept saying 'he will do one'. I think it made a lot of people wonder if he would do a deal and knocked their trust in him.

Labour have some major problems to fix regarding peoples faith in them. If they don't look inward then they will not win in five years. Its not enough to blame everyone else, look inwards.

I got fed up of all parties constantly spending more time belittling each other, rather than concentrating on themselves.

Mumzy · 08/05/2015 07:15

Recount requested by Labour in Ed Balls constituency

Cherrybakewell33 · 08/05/2015 07:16

Looks like Ed will lose his seat

Littlemonstersrule · 08/05/2015 07:18

Is NMW too low, full time it would cover costs of one adult living in a reasonably cheap area rather than London. It's when people start expecting a NMW basic job to cover two adults and children it doesn't work but people go ahead and make those choices anywhere.

I don't watch the benefit programs but imagine they are exaggerated, however it's very naive to believe everyone who is on benefits has no other choice. Plenty on MN confess to being a SAHM courtesy of tax credits, work part time or turn down extra hours. Self support is a foreign concept to many and it needs reversing.

Muddymits · 08/05/2015 07:19

And Ed Balls has been defeated by a campaign no stronger than look at me I am a self made yorkshire lass who organised a job fair and wears pearl earrings these days eh bah gum.

Whocansay · 08/05/2015 07:20

As a Liberal Democrat voter, I'm seriously depressed this morning. I knew it would be bad, but this is horrific! Clegg will have to go. He no longer has any credibility.

SarfEasticatedMumma · 08/05/2015 07:20

Sad what a country we live in. rIp Nhs and welcome to the UK of A

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