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about SIL breastfeeding issue? Wedding related!

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SilverSalmon · 05/05/2015 13:08

I'm getting married in 5 weeks and there'll be 6 children at the wedding - 2 small babies and 4 toddlers. Next to the room where we're getting married is another room they use for smaller ceremonies, I asked if they could leave the door open for this in case people need to take out crying/tantrumming children (including my own 4yo DS!). They've agreed and will put sofas and a toy box in the room.

We were at my OH's parents at the weekend and his DB and wife were there. They are bringing their 2 children, our niece (4 months) and nephew (3yo) to the wedding. I told her about the room and said that I can get them sat near it just in case they need to pop out and settle or feed them (she's breastfeeding both). She said that if they need to feed she can just pull her dress down as its low cut, but I said she'll probably be more comfortable in the room as the seats are squahsed close together and may incur a lot of faffing. I've said the same to my cousin who is bring her 2 month old, who is bottle fed (and told SIL-to-be this).

Can I state at this point I'm very pro-breastfeeding, i breastfed DS until he was 2 years old, often in public, and would never ever adopy a 'there's a time and a place' attitude - however having breastfed a child of varying ages I know what a faff it can be especially when they're across your lap when someone is right next to you, so I gave the room idea as I thought it would be more comfortable for them and the children.

This morning OH has received the following email from his DB (names changed obviously):

Hi DB
Laura (SIL-to-be) and I have been discussing the issue of breastfeeding at your wedding and the fact she's been asked to go into another room if she needs to feed during the ceremony. I have to say I'm disappointed in you both as I thought you were pro-breastfeeding. Laura feels very vicitimised by this and we suspect it's because other guests may feel uncomfortable. In which case that's their issue, if they are offended by breasts being used for their natural function then they are welcome to turn their heads. Or, if it's like SilverSalmon says, and it's just for our comfort, we believe it would be easier to just get the children latched on rather than make the fuss of getting up and leaving the room.

I think it may be a good time to also mention that, as you know, Laura tandem feeds and because DS is still feeding when she latches DD on he usually comes up asking for some too. Meaning that it's highly likely that she'll need to tandem feed at various points during the day. We're happy with this and she has chosen a tandem-feeding friendly dress for this reason. Laura is not prepared to be shoved into a side room like she's doing something sordid, she wants to be part of the day too. So wether it be during the ceremony, dinner, speeches etc, she will need to tandem feed and is not prepared to leave the room to do it. I have to put the comfort and needs of my wife and children first. If you're not happy with this arrangement I'm afraid we won't be able to come - I'm not having any of us penalised because of our feeding choices. None of us would enjoy a day where the children and Laura are constantly seperate from me and the feeding is non-negotiable. It's up to you 2 but can you let us know asap and then we do things like cancel the hotel room and return our outfits. I hope you understand our point of view, I don't want to fall out with you but I didn't think breastfeeding would be such an issue!"

So mumsnet AIBU to be upset about this? I genuinely thought I was being helpful when I offered a side room for the ceremony. Help!

OP posts:
Bodyinpyjamas10 · 06/05/2015 11:44

I once sprayed the bald head of a bloke on the plane seat infront of mine when dd3 just pulled off and it continued to spray.

Much to the amusement of the unknown
blokes either side of me.

It broke the ice that's for sure.

MadameJulienBaptiste · 06/05/2015 11:46

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SilverSalmon · 06/05/2015 11:46

Under this name Only1 yes.
OH says on the day we probably wouldn't notice if a family member burst into flames let alone breastfed and I suspect he's right, so I'm not gonna worry too much about it. part of me thinks we should eloped to Vegas instead

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Waltermittythesequel · 06/05/2015 11:46

There are definitely people who are a bit weird about BF (I've met some of them), but they're a small minority.

Well, quite...

nickersinaknot · 06/05/2015 11:46

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5madthings · 06/05/2015 11:46

body I fed ds1 on the tube once when he was about nine months,he pulled off as my milk let down and the bloke sat opposite got sprayed, mainly all over the newspaper he was reading. It was one of those moments where nobody knew where to look!

PterodactylTeaParty · 06/05/2015 11:48

Yep seriously, the Red Arrows could have flown overhead during my ceremony and I wouldn't have noticed. Too busy concentrating on not bodging the lines (or getting the giggles like I did in the rehearsal Blush)

And I wouldn't worry too much about BIL/SIL making a huge song and dance over things either. Even if they try (which I doubt tbh, it's a lot easier to be stroppy via email than it is to kick up a big fuss in person) people will be paying attention to you and not them. We had one guest kick up a massive fuss over the dinner - people just rolled their eyes and ignored him.

Only1scoop · 06/05/2015 11:48

Oh thought it was a first time poster or name changer revving up a bunfighty thread silly me....

Happy nuptuals

Bodyinpyjamas10 · 06/05/2015 11:49

5Mad there's really nothing you can say is there when your norks just go out of control. Grin

Seffina · 06/05/2015 11:52

I wouldn't wonder, tbh, I'd assume the child had a dummy to keep her/him pacified whilst the parents were watching the ceremony. Or using chocolate buttons or whatever. We can't all be perfect parents all the time, sometimes you do things to keep the peace.

I may not agree with 3 year olds having dummies, but their kids their rulez and all that and I've seen plenty of them about, including at family occasions. Although I also know people who would be very vocal in their opposition to dummies, so it works both ways.

Perhaps I should care less about the opinions of others, but I don't want people to think that when I am breastfeeding my child that I'm only doing it to make a statement or that I'm trying to attention seek when all I want to do is feed my child. Or get some peace and quiet for a few moments. Or get the baby to sleep. Breastfeeding never even entered my thoughts before I had a baby, and I have been doing it ever since, so I haven't been on the outside of it so to speak, so am unaware of why people don't like it, other than saying that their boobs are for sex (something I've actually heard). Hence why I'm asking these questions, is there something else that makes people uncomfortable?

I may also have over reacted, but 4 1/2 years of drips of criticism are a factor in that. Which was actually my original point way back when!

TheNewStatesman · 06/05/2015 11:53

I breastfed my daughter till around her 4th birthday (!).

I wouldn't have dreamed of creating problems at someone's wedding in this kind of way.

You don't pop your tit out for a 3yo all day long, for goodness' sake. It is a "brief cuddle once a day before bedtime" kind of thing by that age.

A hulking great 3yo sprawled around someone's lap doing the usual nursing acrobatics is going to cause a scene. And people will remember it and talk about it, and the child may end up feeling embarrassed about it when he is older.

Feeding the 4mo is another matter. No reason why she should have to go outside unless she wants to.

Seffina · 06/05/2015 11:57

I have said previously that of course 3 year olds don't need to breastfeed, but that there are lots of things that 3 year olds do that they don't need to. And if someone wants to give their children sweets and chocolate to keep them quiet during a ceremony then fine. Not all children are well behaved all the time!

I also tandem fed when DS was a newborn, and did try and include both of them because I didn't want DD to feel that her brother was getting all of her milk as well as most of my attention. So in that respect, I can understand why Laura may feel the need to tandem feed. Her decision.

I was initially riled by comments about seeing children "swinging off tits", but there have been others. And obviously, little britain got a mention too.

Seffina · 06/05/2015 12:00

Any nursing acrobatics whilst out in public with my 3 year old and I would have ended the feed and dealt with the consequences, leaving the room if need be. It's just that leaving the room wouldn't have been my first choice, IYSWIM.

GingerCuddleMonster · 06/05/2015 12:03

seffina everyone's different, I've always left the room for special occasions such as weddings or ceremonies. It's just seen as the done thing in this neck of the woods. There's never going to be a resolve about it, so their is no point in arguing about it anymore, that how I see it it anyways.

I just think its shifty to send its a all about ME e-mail to a bride.

GingerCuddleMonster · 06/05/2015 12:05

sorry for typos I'm a jungle Jim for a 8month old this morning Confused

Seffina · 06/05/2015 12:10

It was a shitty email, but for all we know all Laura said was something like "I feel like OP is telling us to go into another room, maybe it's just me, maybe it's something to do with me still feeding 3YO, it's made me feel a bit crap, but don't say anything because I don't want to cause hassle" and her DH has gone off on one and wrote that email. On another AIBU maybe posters would be pleased her DH has defended her against his family.

We just don't know, and it riled me that some posters were jumping to the conclusion that she must want to get half naked and parade her breasts to the whole congregation. (okay, I'm exaggerating there)

But then again, this is AIBU...

GingerCuddleMonster · 06/05/2015 12:12

I know for a fact my DP would not write a e-mail on my behalf and I don't know many men that would exhibit that controlling attitude, but Yes this is AIBU

AuntyMag10 · 06/05/2015 12:15

Given that people at the wedding will know that there is a room available for the kids, Laura will undoubtedly look like an intention seeker doing this.

TheJiminyConjecture · 06/05/2015 12:16

If it is she's hit the trifector

Breastfeeding
In laws
weddings

All we need now is Laura to demand a p&c space and MN will implode

Seffina · 06/05/2015 12:16

Not in email, but my DH did once tell his mum that it was none of her business when DD stopped breastfeeding when DD was coming up 3. But he wouldn't have said it in that way.

My sympathies on being a jungle gym, my DS has just discovered my eyelids and likes to try and pull them up and down. On the bright side, he hasn't stuck his fingers up my nose whilst feeding yet today!

Writerwannabe83 · 06/05/2015 12:19

How do you BF a 3 year old? Do they have to be "sprawled across the lap" or can the child just sit on the lap normally, slightly turned in, and then just turn their head a little to latch on?

I'm just trying to picture it.

Only1scoop · 06/05/2015 12:22

Thejim

Indeed

pennyred · 06/05/2015 12:24

I am intrigued. Do some people really think that if, say, SIL (or anyone else for that matter,) were sat next to someone giving a speech at a wedding, that tandem feeding at that point would be okay?

Bodyinpyjamas10 · 06/05/2015 12:28

TheJim

All we need now is cat poo blinding the breast fed and satiated 3 year old as he wanders around the churchyard.

PterodactylTeaParty · 06/05/2015 12:29

Depends. Would she be tandem feeding the person trying to give the speech? I could imagine it being pretty disruptive if so. Otherwise, would find it hard to work up much energy to care so long as she and kids were staying quiet during the speech.