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to be warming to Ed Milliband???

183 replies

VirginiaTonic · 17/04/2015 14:51

I think I might actually quite like him! At least he's not just an overgrown public school boy, and he seems to have a shred of integrity about him. Actually, he's quite huggable really.

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RaggyAnnie · 17/04/2015 19:47

YANBU

RonaldMcDonald · 17/04/2015 19:49

Also I thought Gideon Osbourne was so badly on the ropes when questioned about where exactly he was finding £8 billion

It was dreadful, so dreadful I knew they were simply making it up and he was so bad I felt sorry for him

WastingMyYoungYears · 17/04/2015 19:50

dreaming, that's beyond ridiculous.

foreverdepressed · 17/04/2015 19:50

Most politicians are posh and privileged - many public schools, oxbridge, etc.

Then again half of the media and successful entertainers are posh, oxbridge educated and have family connections all over the place.

Getting to the top in this country is about who you are and who you know, now what abilities you may have.

AnnaFiveTowns · 17/04/2015 19:51

I've always liked him as a politician - I feel he's a man of substance. But since the build up to the elections began, I've started to develop a bit of a crush! Blush I'm fighting it, but the more the press diss him, the more I like him!

Tiredemma · 17/04/2015 19:52

Also I thought Gideon Osbourne was so badly on the ropes when questioned about where exactly he was finding £8 billion

It was car crash stuff

foreverdepressed · 17/04/2015 19:53

"shafting his brother" - eh? What for daring to enter a fair and democratic contest against him?

I don't follow the argument against Ed. His critics claim on he is 'weak' and 'indecisive', but in the very next breath they say he is a heartless backstabber. Two statements don't seem to go together to me.

If my DC went into the same career I would never expect the youngest to step aside for the oldest. Equal opportunity and equal rights.

RonaldMcDonald · 17/04/2015 19:56

Imagine being shamed repeatedly by the press claiming that you'd shafted your brother.
This makes no sense - as they both knew what they were doing when entering the race for the leadership. It is hardly House of Cards material.
Poor David ...the brother making millions flitting about NY whilst his brother is scorned and vilified for everything including his looks, voice, how he eats a bacon sandwich and the girl friends he has previously had.

Would we allow this if he were a female candidate?

pourmeanotherglass · 17/04/2015 19:57

YANBU. I think the press have always been a bit unkind to Ed, and sometimes unfairly. He has come across quite well in the TV debates. I work for the NHS, and would never vote Tory, but I'm now feeling more positive about voting labour.

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 17/04/2015 19:58

A female candidate wouldnt get picked to shit like that. They've decided Ed will be the focus of hate and it seems really unjust.

chiliplant · 17/04/2015 20:02

I like Alan Johnson but I heard he has accepted a lot of money from private health companies... I really hope this isn't true!

Chipstick10 · 17/04/2015 20:04

Ed gives me the creeps.

PaulineFossil · 17/04/2015 20:05

Not sure how I feel about him tbh, but can't stand Cameron. As an aside I object to the media use of 'Oxbridge' as a short hand for rich, out of touch and over-privileged. There are some people like that who went to Oxford and Cambridge. Most are not like that. The only generalisation I'd make is that they are academically intelligent. It's a lazy media stereotype that can actively harm people who have worked very hard.

BreakWindandFire · 17/04/2015 20:08

One of the reasons Ed's had such a bad press is that he's said he supports the findings of the Leveson Inquiry, so a lot of the papers that were exposed for their shitty behaviour hate him. He also took on the Daily Mail when they attacked his dead father.

He also said he's prepared to crack down on non-doms, with a great number of UK newspapers owned by those people. Hence the nom-dom-owned Evening Standard (a paper supposedly aimed at working Londoners and commuters) hyperventilating all last week about how Ed'll ruin the London luxury property market Hmm.

Blair, Brown and Cameron have all sucked up to Rupert Murdoch and the media barons, because they were scared of them and felt they needed them. Blair courted Murdoch (and perhaps Wendi Wink), Brown courted the editor of the Daily Mail and as for Cameron and Murdoch, there's Rebeka Brooks, Coulson, the 2012 BSkyB/New Corp bid fiasco etc etc...

If Ed gets elected it will probably be the first time in modern times that a Prime Minister gets in who is not supported by the majority of the press because he is not beholden their owners.

Go Ed!

Kampeki · 17/04/2015 20:09

I agree, pauline. Going to Oxbridge doesn't indicate the same level of wealth and privilege as going to Eton!

Kampeki · 17/04/2015 20:13

If Ed gets elected it will probably be the first time in modern times that a Prime Minister gets in who is not supported by the majority of the press because he is not beholden their owners.

Yes, indeed, and I think that's very exciting - brilliant news for democracy!

His refusal to suck up to the media is evidence of real courage and strong principles. We need people in politics who have that sort of integrity.

And it's about time that we had a leader who wants to achieve more than just getting elected.

londonrach · 17/04/2015 20:14

I remember my comprehensive sending more children to oxbridge than the 4 private schools in my town so its not all rich people. (Guess the town i grow up in) I still find ed gives me the creeps but i think he would if he gone to a poly. I like cameron as he seems a nice man. Clegg out if his depth so kinda feel sorry for him....

diaimchlo · 17/04/2015 20:17

Pyjamaschocolateandwine

Totally agree with you John Smith would have made a superb PM and IMHO so will Ed Milliband, he is the only Labour leader since John Smith's untimely death that I feel I trust.

Anyone making decisions on how they are going to vote by reading/listening to the pathetic schoolyard tactics being played out in the Tory media need help. Does it really matter how someone eats a bacon butty or what type of kitchen they have?? Stop reading the trash and watch the debates closely, then make your decisions.

CatHammock · 17/04/2015 20:21

I like him. I've been unsure about him in the past, but he seems solid, human and a good policy wonk. I'd rather have someone passionate about policy in charge of the government, and I don't get the sense that Cameron gives two stuffs either way about anything other than his mates and his pockets. I also think a SNP partnership would work out to the benefit of the whole country - if the terrible nightmare of Westminster looking more than 50miles outside of London does happen, we may end up with more regional devolution for England as well.

Chipstick10 · 17/04/2015 20:34

How can you use the word credibility next to a labour politician. Actually any politician. You will re read this in a years time and you will eat your words of this I am very sure.

Tiredemma · 17/04/2015 20:36

Is he less credible than DC?

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 17/04/2015 20:46

Shiny Dave is barely credible, I'd trust Nick Clegg before Cameron and his secret lover Osborne.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 17/04/2015 21:08

londonrach it's odd you have such a visceral reaction to Ed Miliband based on what? His looks? Yet you think Cameron is a "nice man" even though you must know how the poorest in our community have suffered under his government.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 17/04/2015 21:10

Tall you ship Cosborne! Grin

TaliZorahVasNormandy · 17/04/2015 21:16

Lumpy Please do not put that image in my head. No amount of brain bleach would scrub that away Grin