To ask dog walkers to be considerate

[hestialou]

I have a garden to the side of house and people seem to think it is fine to allow their dogs to do their business in it, i asked one dog owner to not allow his dog on garden his response -but I'll clean it up, fine but why cant they clean it up off their own gardens or even clean up off pavement....why allow dog to go in someone elses garden in first place?

I think some of your posts have been just as (if not more so) dramatic Regina

Oh get a bloody grip!!!

I find such things as lack of support for abused children, families living on the breadline short of the basics does more to lower the quality of peoples lives than dog shit.

You are vilifying all dog owners and frankly you are very over dramatic which is making it difficult for me to carry on this discussion with you.

For example.

That was in response to the equally dramatic:

Dog ownership is a lifestyle choice which lowers quality of living for those who have to use pavements or choose to use public parks and other community areas.

Posted by Sister.

Sister continue to call yourself a victim all you like doesn't make you one to me. You are just a mother who had to clean up some poo. Granted dog poo but still poo, something I think all of us have had to do at some point. I think your overall blame of all dog owners is over the top and unfair. Just the same way I think it is unfair that my company has to pay a specialist to clean up humane crap. Unfair and down right rotten but I wouldn't call us victims seems a bit to strong a word for that.

You continue to victim blame regina by blaming my poor sense of smell

How would I know you have a poor sense of smell given your earlier post: Not do I want the smells, health risk or to attract other dogs to the area outside my property. I assumed you had a working sense of smell

Nope, don't think that was equally dramatic. Telling someone to get a bloody grip!!! or bringing abused children into a conversation about dog shit is far more dramatic.

Well that is your opinion and you are entitled to it Sirch just as I am entitled to mine.

I will not change my opinion of poo or sister regardless of what you say or how many of my posts you copy and paste but feel free to carry on if it makes you happy

"So if there is unfenced grass next to someones house it's "fair game"?"

Dinna fash Dr0pThePirate, I simply meant that if this was a piece of land that had previously not been owned by the Op and had perhaps been used by others as if a communal piece of ground (in this case by a dog whose owner, Op has said, does pick up), then a fence might be a better way of making it clear to users that the piece of ground had been acquired by Op and was now part of her property.

I was not suggesting that it was okay to allow one's dog to use someone else's garden to shit in.

Indeed - it does seem to be your opinion that bringing child abuse into a conversation about dog shit is appropriate. I disagree, but that's my opinion

Copying and pasting does seem to be your forte, looking at your PP. And you can even bold them

Sirch get a grip

The whole of my post was in the context of lowering quality of life.....not dog shit as you well know you cheeky monkey you.

Yes I can do bold however I prefer to bold whole posts or names instead of just the odd word....makes it look like a bold fail otherwise.

Well you are a mother so I guess that does make you a female although I do not see what being a female has to do with cleaning up poo I suppose next you will accuse me of being sexist!

My point was you had to clean up dog poo we have all had to do it for our children and off our own shoes, that doesn't in my eyes make you a victim it just makes you somebody that had to clean up crap. Not great I grant you and should not have happened but it did. Just don't blame all dog owners.

No grips needed here

I'm really curious - what was it that made you think of child abuse in the context of lowering of quality of life? I would think of something like litter, graffiti, that type of thing, not the images and behaviour that fill us all with abject horror, cause untold misery and trauma for the victims and go way, way beyond a lowering of quality of life.

Just my opinion though.

I think it was because of the article I was reading at the same time as mumsnetting. It was of how a victim of child abuse is campaigning for better support for child abuse victims as her lack of support has severely impacted on her quality of life. I suppose my brain just associated the two. Had I been reading an article about graffiti I would have probably put that.

Just to clarify it was the words quality of life that made the post and the article link not that I liken dog poo to child abuse before you try and say that I do Sir

Sister you are the kind of person that will find offence everywhere.

I have already expressed genuine sympathy regarding your condition and I have also agreed that the non clean up by owners is out of order.

Given how severe you skin condition is on your hands it must be difficult in your job as I assume wearing gloves and good hand hygiene are a must and a practise you must do many times a day?

What makes you dramatic is your language victim/lowering quality of life and the damnation of all dog owners.

You don't like my opinion or point of view. I get that and I am ok with it. I am not a victim and I won't hate all mumsnetters because of what you say or feel about me.

Hmm - interesting connection. I suppose because I'm familiar with the issue both in a professional and personal capacity I would never think of child abuse in terms of simply lowering one's quality of life and don't tend to refer to it other than in very specific contexts.

And for those very reasons, I do not and would not liken dog poo to child abuse.

I didn't liken dog poo to child abuse. You did.

I mentioned lack of support for child abuse victimsit as one of the things I see as lowering the quality of somebodies life. This was because of the article I was reading at the time. No other reason.

I also mentioned families living on the breadline short of the basics as something that in my view lowers the quality of somebodies life.

I had my choice taken away from me.

I agreed with you. I said it was wrong and out of order that you had to clean it up. I just cannot accept your use of the word victim over and over again. Probably because I associate it with much bigger problem/incidents/issues but thats just my take on the word.