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my apologies. .I genuinely would like to talk about body image and contradictions on mumsnet

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sorenoggin · 12/04/2015 00:23

Seems my last post was misunderstood so am trying again.

Why is it okay on mums net and in real life for people to make jokes and disparaging remarks about men with small penises?

We would never condone a man slating or laughing at a woman's genitals on here so why is it okay the other way round?

Read this for the reality of what it is like for a man with a smaller penis and the huge emotional impact it has on his life

ughsocialjustice.com/post/107849865308/small-dicks-are-part-of-body-positivity
I Guess I just want to remind everyone that every time you laugh or joke about 'ignore him, he probably got a small dick ' you are adding to the pain of probably someone you know :(

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sourpotato · 12/04/2015 17:44

Hakluyt, the purpose of the site he posted on is specifically for venting about the pitfalls of SJWs. He posted because he has been affected by the hypocrisy of SJWs who preach body positivity and then shame small penises.

The only time he mentioned feminists was when he said that, presumably due to the general ethos of feminism, he expected feminists to be receptive to messages about body positivity. I don't think that's particularly unreasonable.

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Hakluyt · 12/04/2015 17:50

"I'm shocked at the double standards you are showing here, and I'm (as I said) very disappointed at your attitude"

Yeah, well, I think I can live with your disappointment- not sure how you can be "disappointed" by a stranger, anyway.

And if you read what I actually post, not what you think I post, then you may understand my attitude better.

And heartless cunt is a personal attack in anyone's book.

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SunshineBossaNova · 12/04/2015 18:25

I'm amused that, on a thread about not shaming male body parts, posters are flinging around 'cunt' as an insult with gay abandon.

I agree it's not okay to shame men for their genitalia. Isn't it also wrong to use a term for female genitals as an insult?

Hakluyt · 12/04/2015 18:32

I find the use of the word "cunt" as an insult deeply offensive and I am not prepared to offer justifications so that you can withdraw the word.

EatShitDerek · 12/04/2015 18:35

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Mehitabel6 · 12/04/2015 19:18

I agree OP.
I am always shocked by the double standards on MN-answers and advice depend entirely on whether it is a man or a woman asking,or even if it is about a DS or a DD, in the majority of cases they should be getting the same advice.
Great posts from WorraLiberty-I agree with them all.

Mehitabel6 · 12/04/2015 19:20

You wouldn't think from some posters that there are actually a lot of men who are shy, sensitive and easily hurt. Words can have a lasting effect and destroy their confidence.

WorraLiberty · 12/04/2015 19:22

I didn't call you a heartless cunt. What I said was...

"Yes but he's also the victim of heartless cunts, both male and female who see nothing wrong with body shaming/excusing body shaming, because they're too thick/lazy to call someone on their actions."

Hakluyt · 12/04/2015 19:35

"Well am I allowed to say that I find your attitude on this thread to be offensive?"

Yes.

Hakluyt · 12/04/2015 19:38

"Do you have an issue with dickhead too? Or dick, nob, nobhead, bellend?"

I don't particularly like them. But I find the use of a word for female genitals as the worst possible insult deeply offensive.

Mehitabel6 · 12/04/2015 19:40

Why does anyone need to hurl insults? Hmm
The moment you do you have lost the argument anyway -if you wish to be listened to and taken seriously.

Hakluyt · 12/04/2015 19:45

I see no reason for throwing insults either. Others disagree.

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Mehitabel6 · 12/04/2015 19:48

If someone is hurling them it is much better to ignore-not give them the response they want.

Mehitabel6 · 12/04/2015 19:49

I have to say that I haven't seen any insults hurled on this thread.

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CrispyFern · 12/04/2015 19:52

It must be bloody annoying if you are a peaceful pleasant guy with a small penis to hear others blaming annoying shitty behaviour on small penisedness. You'd be like, "I have a small penis and I'm not an arsehole thank you very much!", so I totally see the issue.

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TormundsMember · 12/04/2015 20:36

I completely agree with the posters saying body shaming of any gender is unacceptable and wrong.
I realise that we live in a society where penis = power and understand the reasons behind using small penis as an insult but to do so is still wrong.
It impacts on all men and makes decent men with small penises feel inadequate. Nobody should be made to feel bad because of how a part of them looks.

Thetreeonthemountaintop · 12/04/2015 20:38

OP I just want to say thanks to you for posting this thread. I had not considered this issue before, but now I totally see that it is nasty and hurtful to make jibes of this type and I will certainly make sure i don't in future.
Thanks also to Hakluyt and Laura for illustrating what unconvincing rationalisations the opposing views are.

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