my apologies. .I genuinely would like to talk about body image and contradictions on mumsnet

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Seems my last post was misunderstood so am trying again.

Why is it okay on mums net and in real life for people to make jokes and disparaging remarks about men with small penises?

We would never condone a man slating or laughing at a woman's genitals on here so why is it okay the other way round?

Read this for the reality of what it is like for a man with a smaller penis and the huge emotional impact it has on his life

ughsocialjustice.com/post/107849865308/small-dicks-are-part-of-body-positivity
I Guess I just want to remind everyone that every time you laugh or joke about 'ignore him, he probably got a small dick ' you are adding to the pain of probably someone you know :(

Worral - exactly! Men intimidating women are pathetic and inadequate but let's base that on personality and not body parts people have no control over - whichever sex.

Commenting in a derogatory way on men or women's bodies (especially over things they can't change ) is wrong full stop. Yes..women experience it more but that doesn't mean we should excuse demeaning jokes about men.

My apologies again to those of you I upset or offended.

A bit like 'there, there. That's crap, what a wanker, he probably had a tiny cock, sorry you've had a bad day'.

What sort of twat would seriously say that though?

'There there. That's crap, what a wanker, she probably had a huge fanny anyway, sorry you've had a bad day'.

Thank fuck I don't mix with people like that because knowing I'm friends with an idiot, would probably upset me just as much.

Worral. .Thank you..you have restored my faith!

It's more complex than a 'body part insult'. There is massive symbolism about men and the penis in our culture used by men.

Giant balls - to indicate courage, bravery
Big swinging dick - city guy with power

It's nothing like insults about female body parts.

Haven't read whole thread but wanted to add that on here if someone votes conservative or drives a 4x4 it seems ok to say anything you like, nothings off limits. sad really. I have definitely heard that said in both of the above scenarios many times.

They're choices though so fair game really.

Glad to hear it OP

No doubt some people will disagree with me. Not because of my reasoning, but because I have tiny tits and my vagina resembles a wizard's sleeve.

Oh and my stomach also needs toning up after having 3 children, so it would clearly be fair to have a jibe at that, rather than have a discussion about my POV.

Haven't read whole thread but wanted to add that on here if someone votes conservative or drives a 4x4 it seems ok to say anything you like, nothings off limits. sad really. I have definitely heard that said in both of the above scenarios many times.

They're choices though so fair game really.

I do agree all body shaming is wrong, Worra and OP. I am still astounded at the breathtakingly disgusting way the deleted thread was started. It's like starting an anti-fat shaming campaign by skinny shaming somebody. Nothing to do with wanting to stop intelligent discussions, far from it.

Noooooooooo Derek what the fuck is wrong with you?!

The male insults are fine and dandy.

But don't you dare show women the same aggression.

You sexist cow, you

I can't imagine anyone would think its ok to talk about your genitalia like that

I think that's quite different to using a shorthand insult to describe someone's bad behaviour

But we will just have to agree to disagree - which of course is the best thing about Mumsnet that there's so many points of view

"Or if a woman calls me a cunt for no reason can I call her a flappy labia?"

if you want to, I suppose!

So let's all use shorthand insults because we're too lazy to describe the behaviour that has annoyed us.

Fatty

Ginger minger

Stumpy

Lanky

Little dick

Babby fanny

No, seriously I think we should stick to discussion rather than playground insults.

Baggy fanny, not 'babby' fanny. That sounds really weird

Then do, it obviously works well for you

Yep. Because men are such a disadvantaged group within society- they really need women to stand up for them!

Then do, it obviously works well for you

I think complaining about someone's poor behaviour, rather than resorting to body shaming insults works well for everyone over the age of 10.

I'd imagine lots of people on MN have a babby fanny .

Almost nobody on the thread agrees body shaming insults are OK though or am I missing something?

Oh come on Hakluyt, men are individual people the same as women are.

No-one deserves to be body shamed.

If you have a problem with someone's behaviour then verbalise it.

Resorting to cheap jibes about their body says more about that person, than the person they're complaining about.

Remember that post a few weeks ago where the poster said someone screamed at them because she wouldn't do what she was told and park on the opposite side of the petrol pump?

I remember lots of supportive posts saying his behaviour was horrible and some just using a shorthand insult about the arsehole.

Can't find it in me to get worked up about the arsehole who screamed not on the thread.

I think the only 'small dick' jibe I've heard is the one in relation to a flash car, but surely no one actually believes that? I agree though, it shouldn't be used as a joke.

Unfortunately though, people DO make comments about all kind of things, like men claiming they don't fancy a certain celebrity 'because she's got no tits'.

And I've overheard some men claim 'they bet a woman has a baggy fanny', too.

Some people are just knobs.

Yes reni1 you're missing the people who are condoning saying that some men have little dicks, due to their behaviour.

I don't think its a body insult.

There's not a woman in the world over compensating for their bad behaviour because of their 'babby fanny'

There's plenty of men angry that they don't get to have unlimited power and over compensate for the lack of it by being aggressive. They are the ones angry about not having 'the big swinging dick' (power) so when someone says 'he's got a tiny penis' what they're really saying is that he's overcompensating for his aggressive behaviour because he has no power.