and possibly PFB about nursery teaching DS to say "ta"?

[missmargot]

Hearing adults saying to babies and children "say taaaaaa" whenever they give them something has long been a pet hate of mine, it gives me the absolute rage.

Twice this week I've heard different people at nursery say this to DS and it's made me shudder.

This isn't about me wanting DS (15 months) to say the full 'thank you' on his first attempt, he will make whatever sounds he wants to for the words as he does with everything else and that's fine, what I hate is him being taught that the word is 'ta' in the first place.

Would IBU to say something to nursery about this? I am severely sleep deprived at the moment so fully prepared to be told that I am being PFB and be handed a grip, but honestly had I have heard the word 'ta' being used at nursery when we looked around I would have thought twice about sending him there.

I still struggle with when to say loo, toilet, ladies, rest room or carsey!

Surely Khasi?

Mother, ironically it was my Mum who wrote the memo. She was wrong about a lot of things, so don't fret.

Thanks for correct spelling of Kharsi - I did google it too!

For the record at no point have I said that I dislike ta because it is common or that I even perceive it to be common. I don't like it because I think it's an unecessary abbreviation and that DS should hear the correct word even if he can't say it yet. He has his own words for baby, milk, dog, Mummy and Daddy and we don't see it necessary to shorten those words when we talk to him, so why must we shorten thank you?

Nope according to Mr Google Carsey is the correct Cockney word!

Sangria I'm not sure if that was I'm reply to me but she wasn't getting it mixed up with please. I see it all the time! Someone saying "taaaa?" and holding out their hand to a toddler to get them to give whatever their holding.

You'll see it all the time in my house. It worked with my children and it worked with my DGC. My mother did it with her DGC too.

And we'll continue to do it. It worked.

Ta is a bit icky. But just say thank you at home and dc will work it out!

Ta never bothered me - but I did object for silly and wrong names for perfectly ordinary things. A dog is a dog not a woof woof . At dd1s 18 month check the HV was testing her vocabulary by asking her to hand her objects from a tray. When she asked her for the baby dd1 quite understandably looked puzzled and clearly was getting a great big zero for that So I said "give the lady the doll dd1" and she picked up the doll. She knew what a baby was and knew what a doll was!

Nope according to Mr Google Carsey is the correct Cockney word!

Never seen it spelt like that!

Surely you say Mother and Father rather than unnecessary and childish words like Mummy and Daddy???

it's an unecessary abbreviation and that DS should hear the correct word even if he can't say it yet. He has his own words for baby, milk, dog, Mummy and Daddy and we don't see it necessary to shorten those words when we talk to him, so why must we shorten thank you?

I always think you should do both. It's good to use their words back sometimes to show you understand them and then you use the correct one to model.

So where we do use 'Ta' we use Thank You as well.

we use ta with DD. we also say thank you as DS is older and somehow managed to figure that one out DD says ta and anksu

Op, I'm not that convinced you weren't originally referring to class. You used the word shudder and rage which sounded a bit beyond not wanting you child to be taught unnecessary childhood abbreviations.

As pps said, mummy, potty, belly are also unnecessary baby words. They'll lose all of them all too soon.

"Do you need to urinate? Please follow Mother to the lavatory."

Keturah I once heard a Mother in a public loo asking her son repeatedly if he needed to "dirt"

"DO you need to dirt or not? DO you want to dirt? You need to dirt NOW if you need to do it!"

Dirt!

My friend works in a private nursery and she told me they're not allowed to say "Sit down" to the children...or ta...or belly. I asked!

MrsFlannel I remember reading a thread on here once and the OP referred to it as 'wetting' or 'dirtying' the toilet. I.e. My DS won't dirty the toilet, he'll only wet it.

WTF why has not liking 'ta' turned into a class snobbery issue?

I wouldn't like 'ta' either!

(And pardon is a banned word..)

Is every person on this thread southern? I'm Lancs now living in Yorkshire and we use all Ta every day. As an actual word, which means thanks, not as a childish abbreviation. So it does sound like people having a snobby pop at a word which we'd always been told originated from the Danish 'Tak' anyway. Strong Yorkshire dialect in particular has loads in common with Danish.

Don't worry though we're all perfectly capable of kicking out a 'thank you' when the situation demands it

North East here, and it's a pet peeve of mine not because of snobbery on my part, but because I'd rather my children speak properly so that when it comes to job interviews etc they have a better chance especially if it's second nature to use the right words, pronounced correctly (and not say 'like' every three words as most do around here)

I am 25 and still say Ta..

V confused over 'belly' & 'potty' too... I don't find them unnecessary.

You can choose which words you want to encourage your child to use. They will make their own minds up in the end. I wouldn't bother complaining to the staff at your child's nursery as it is a total none issue. learning to say ta doesn't stop them from using other words.

I actively encourage my children to use my dialect (Geordie) but make sure they know how to use standard English. A region's dialect is very much part of the culture and history of that area. It really makes me sad and a bit angry that people are quick to get rid of them. my dialect is just as legitimate as standard English which is itself a dialect in the great circus that is the English language.