and possibly PFB about nursery teaching DS to say "ta"?

[missmargot]

Hearing adults saying to babies and children "say taaaaaa" whenever they give them something has long been a pet hate of mine, it gives me the absolute rage.

Twice this week I've heard different people at nursery say this to DS and it's made me shudder.

This isn't about me wanting DS (15 months) to say the full 'thank you' on his first attempt, he will make whatever sounds he wants to for the words as he does with everything else and that's fine, what I hate is him being taught that the word is 'ta' in the first place.

Would IBU to say something to nursery about this? I am severely sleep deprived at the moment so fully prepared to be told that I am being PFB and be handed a grip, but honestly had I have heard the word 'ta' being used at nursery when we looked around I would have thought twice about sending him there.

www.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/ta

It seems to be a word.

Our nursery say "ta" but I've never heard DD say it - possibly she says it at nursery but she doesn't say it to us, presumably because we say thankyou. So I wouldn't worry too much.

Isn't the intention behind it more important than the simple word/sound that they encourage them to say? They are teaching manners by getting the idea across that you respond when somebody gives you something. You can teach them the proper words later, it's not like they will only ever know the word 'ta' and the chance will disappear for them to learn 'thank you'.

I thought research showed that very young children learned to speak more quickly, if adults used "baby" words and that sing song voice?

It's a word and I use it! I'd let it go. I'm just as bad as you tho because i cringe at the pronunciation of some words. Look at the big picture. Fwiw although ds can say thank you and trots it out mostly at the right times - when he really means it and when he bursts out with it and I do a little inward cheer that he's a nice kid - it's always "Fanks!".

I'm not sure a 15 month old can understand this. I think manners are modelled rather than taught.

Anecdotal but mine have talked quite early and haven't had baby words or sing song voices.

I can't even remember how my two learnt. They did though, and it's all fine.

Where I live (Scotland) "ta" is quite common in an informal context even in adults.
My dd was so proud of herself when she could say "ta" and i loved hear her saying it over and over again. As soon as she could speak properly she said thank you.
To be honest, its a bit of a non event isnt it? I get that you might not like it or use it yourself but if it wasnt the nursery it would be someone in a shop, or a nice old person. Could be worse they could teach them to say "hiya"

Oh the horror...

I know where you're coming from and it us annoying but I think you'll look like a knob if you say anything

This would annoy me too (mine said kyoo and graduated to ankyoo) but I don't see how you can say anything without coming across as a loon.

But once they start teaching him "pardon...."

If it really is a huge huge problem to you tell them, get them to put a note on your DS's file that 'ta' is absolutely not to be used under any circumstances. Get it in writing that this will happen.

I wonder what other gems he'll come out with if you do.....
G'wan, do it....just for the lolz.

Pet hate of mine too. I hate ta, not sure why but I just do. I want DD to say thank you or something that sounds like it. However I think you'll struggle to enforce it at nursery, they have enough to remember versus something annoying to you but still acceptable

Far worse that they should take something and not acknowledge it.
Perhaps this is why a grandchild of my acquaintance refuses to say please, thank you or even ta when offered something ; her grandmother says in a voice of considerable pride: 'oh, you won't get her to say anything; she's so independent!' Spelt 'rude.'

Change nursery for one where only middle class ladies who speak correctly are employed. 'Tis the only way -unless you give up work and drop childcare altogether to ensure his ears are not polluted by commonspeak.

When I lived up North as a child everyone said, ta or even ta very much!

Ooh I hated this. I hated it more as short for "can you give that to me?" For example DS is sitting holding a building block, his grandmother is in front on him holding her hand out saying "taaaa? taaa?" and he's got this face -

He understands "can you pass Granny the building block?" FFS.

You are quite entitled to say something to nursery.

No doubt they will respond politely and avoid doing it again. Then laugh at you forever about this incredible PFB snobbishness.

If Granny is getting ta mixed up with 'please' that's another issue altogether, surely?

I understand how you feel, but it really isn't an issue, if you say thank you at home they will pick it up alttile later.

Both ds went to a nursery were the staff said taa and some older friends of the family said it to them too. Although it's not something I'd say, it never bothered me. Ds now only say thank you.

'Far worse that they should take something and not acknowledge it'.

Why are these the only options? Like I said, my 17 month old says something along the lines of 'ank yoo'.

It is annoying, but as others have said for a relatively short period of time. If you reiterate thank you at home it'll be fine. I think if you're happy with the nursery & he's settled and being nurtured through play etc then he's developing as he should in a warm, caring environment. Pick your battles carefully as this doesn't seem to be one!!

Stern words should be had with Granny Hoppity. That's dreadful.

Sangria I'm not sure if that was I'm reply to me but she wasn't getting it mixed up with please. I see it all the time! Someone saying "taaaa?" and holding out their hand to a toddler to get them to give whatever their holding.

Someone tell me I'm not the only one!