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To not want the SNP to form part of teh next government.

203 replies

AICM · 09/04/2015 08:17

I have nothing against the SNP but they have (obviously) got their own agenda.

I want the next government to put the UK first not Scotland.

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KidLorneRoll · 09/04/2015 22:59

It's remarkable how for many it's gone from better together to better togethernowpleaseshutthefuckup.

Ubik1 · 09/04/2015 22:59

Yy kid

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 09/04/2015 23:02

If the SNP were to field candidates in every constituency UK wide, like the Tories or Labour for example, they would fair worst of all. No doubt in my mind.

And therefore the net result would be no different, would it? They field 400 candidates and don't grt in, except in Scotland vs they only field candidates in Scotland and on,y get in in Scotland.

It's the same result in terms of the numbers of elected MPs.

And how in the name of Jeebus can 'Westminster' be used as an insult now?

DamnBamboo · 09/04/2015 23:03

It wasn't meant to. Given the timings it was a cross post clearly.

'Westminster' is used by many when debasing the British government. I have no issue with criticising our government in itself. However, when used during the Scottish-English debate and by a pro-separatist, it is meant as an anti-English comment - no more, no less.

DamnBamboo · 09/04/2015 23:05

And therefore the net result would be no different, would it? They field 400 candidates and don't grt in, except in Scotland vs they only field candidates in Scotland and on,y get in in Scotland

Yes except popular opinion would be very different and the shite SNP rhetoric almost completely ignored.

DowntownFunk · 09/04/2015 23:05

I'm bloody looking forward to 8/5/15

Interesting times.

TheWindowDonkey · 09/04/2015 23:06

We've lived for decades with parties who dont have the well being of the whole uk at heart, none more so than the last government. If you dont live in London or the Southern Counties then seemingly you are irrelevant. Personally i'd welcome an SNP/other party mix, the only parties I actively don't want in are Tories and UKIP.
I'd like to see more devolution, as a Northern England dweller.

Ubik1 · 09/04/2015 23:06

I think 'Westminster' is just a shorthand to differentiate from Scottish Parliament.
It us used by the English press/ commentators too.

I think you are a touch paranoid.

ScotsWhaHae · 09/04/2015 23:06

Whaaaaat?

Sorry but Westminster means exactly that, Westminster, the parliamentary system, the government. Westminster.

Not England.

Do get over yourself.

Christinayangstwistedsister · 09/04/2015 23:07

Dear god I can't believe you have said that. The " from a scot" comment is completely out of order, you have taken your assumptions and applied it to a whole nation

this was not a Scottish v English debate this was about you deciding when the laws of a democracy should be applied

I think you also may want to consider when you label people as a pro separatist, I think hamiltoes has made it clear she voted no

Your agenda, however, is very clear

DamnBamboo · 09/04/2015 23:09

*I think 'Westminster' is just a shorthand to differentiate from Scottish Parliament.
It us used by the English press/ commentators too

I think you are a touch paranoid*

Err no! You haven't seen previous threads, or indeed dissected the news or popular opinion on this front then. Ignoring of course that Scottish MPs can vote in 'Westminster'

LonnyVonnyWilsonFrickett · 09/04/2015 23:11

OR public opinion is all 'yeah, go SNP', they win 45% of the votes and get in on a landslide... You don't know what would happen.

YesILikeItToo · 09/04/2015 23:12

OMG turn the internet off now, I can't stand it!

Yes, they can vote, that's why we elect them, to represent the constituencies they come from in our national parliament. It has a name, but I don't use it when I'm being polite.

Hamiltoes · 09/04/2015 23:15

I go away to make a cuppa and all hell breaks loose Blush haha, thank you to those who said exactly what I should have been saying. And YY westminster is a place, not some sort of insult. Yes except popular opinion would be very different and the shite SNP rhetoric almost completely ignored. Popular opinion would be the same and they wouldn't be ignored, your really not getting the fact that the people who are going to vote for them, still will. And they'll get exactly the same number of seats no matter how many candidates in England or Wales they have. They won't be ignored because they are/ were (end of 2014) the UKs third largest party. That wouldn't change wether or not they ran in england.

If you don't feel represented in England, which clearly you don't condiserding you don't have a clue who your voting for, then why don't you consider running yourself and see how popular your opinions are? Thats what democracy is, as the Scots know only too well. Don't like it? Tough, put up and shut up. Or make your own party who you can vote in who'll work for your agenda.

DamnBamboo · 09/04/2015 23:16

So sick of repeating myself on this thread. I'm not actually pro-'this government' or anti-scottish and am irritated with comments suggesting that this is the case.

I am not deciding when democracy should and shouldn't be applied and won't keep repeating my views.

SNP influence over the whole of the UK would be dire!

Ubik1 · 09/04/2015 23:18

The whole thread is just Confused

Hamiltoes · 09/04/2015 23:19

Yep most of us feel that way about UKIP but you don't see us arguing to ban them from westminster

DamnBamboo · 09/04/2015 23:19

I am considering my options in terms of who I vote for.
It's what smart people do.
Rather than blindly voting for a party irrespective of actually reflecting on what the best option is.

Ubik1 · 09/04/2015 23:20

Conservative influence over the UK is dire!

Have an opinion - we live in a democracy but don't start whining when other people express theirs. And vote.

DamnBamboo · 09/04/2015 23:20

Yes, because I've said that the SNP should be banned from Westminster haven't I! Hmm

Christinayangstwistedsister · 09/04/2015 23:20

You do keep repeating your views...you have just done it!

I suggest if you are irritated about comments re being anti Scottish then don't come out with statements such as " from a scot"

DamnBamboo · 09/04/2015 23:21

Clearly, I have an opinion! I am also not whining about other people's votes. Not once have I said that.

Hamiltoes · 09/04/2015 23:23

Are you suggesting thats what "those scots" do, or just me?

I think you'll find we've just come out of a referendum where 85% of the population voted for what their head and hearts truly believed in. And no, most people including myself didn't just blindly vote irrespectively Hmm

You do realise how ridiculous that comment makes you sound?! Confused

DamnBamboo · 09/04/2015 23:23

from a scot

Agreed, a comment that was 'shot from the hip' to someone who was implying I was anti-Scottish. Although not one of my posts have said I am anti-Scottish and in fact many have demonstrated the opposite.

unlucky83 · 09/04/2015 23:25

Living in Scotland I wouldn't vote SNP ...the independence campaign was really divisive and if they get a lot of support they will use it as a mandate for another referendum....as well as in a coalition engineering policies to make a future Yes vote more likely.
I've said before I really don't like them - I don't trust them, I think they are completely vile. I have been called paranoid on another thread for this view but I stick by it.
I don't believe they have any intention of more than superficially improving the lot of the poor of Glasgow or elsewhere. If people were happy and content they wouldn't vote for massive change, for independence which is the long term goal of the party.
It actually suits them to look like they are doing good - make good headlines -free prescriptions etc. When in fact they aren't doing all they can (unspent money in their budget) to help the poorest people in society Sad. And these are the people who are most likely to vote for them. Its all smoke and mirrors. Angry