To not want the SNP to form part of teh next government.

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I have nothing against the SNP but they have (obviously) got their own agenda.

I want the next government to put the UK first not Scotland.

I'm voting Labour and I'd quite like to see a Labour/SNP coalition.

I agree with whichever paper or whoever it was who said recently that Nicola Sturgeon is 'the best leader the Labour Party never had'.

And I also agree with mum's post: 'Maybe if Ms Sturgeon were deputy PM of the UK she might be less inclined to break it up? Lets face it, the SNP exists because it feels Scotland is ignored in the union and could make its way better on its own. They may feel differently about an SNP member in charge of the whole of the UK.
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I predict that labour will lose more voters to UKIP. Because that's the general source of ukip voters. Most are not ex-tory.

I will not vote labour, for this simple reason. I do not want to be partially governed by a pro-Scottish but anti-Uk party like the SNP.

It isn't really wrong bamboo, the parties are welcome to girls candidates where they would like to. It's maybe a bit bizarre, given that everyone's so bowled over by NS and she isn't even standing for Westminster. I appreciate that perhaps not all ministers have to he elected, but even on that basis surely she's a bit busy running Scotland?

Sorry yes I'm not clear on your point? There is nothing democratic about a person who tens of millions can't vote for (or not vote for) making major decisions which profoundly affect their lives! If it's such a problem for the many anti-Tory Scots to be governed by our current lot, why should this potential situation be acceptable for the rest of the UK? Agree with previous poster who quoted Tony Benn re democracy.

I also disagree that everyone is bowled over by her.

Spend spend spend - money we don't have and not only that, but use a disproportionate amount if it in Scotland. Head for head the Scots do not pay more tax, and head for head they get more than their fair share. They should also NOT be allowed to vote on issues that do not effect them, but we don't see them abstaining there do we.
Utter hypocrisy.

We should have a devolved English parliament too.

And for the record, I'm not anti-Scottish. I'm anti-bad politics.

Chandler you have also mentioned on another SNP thread about the amount of people voting Tory in Scotland being not far behind the amount voting SNP - but this is irrelevant as in a general election it is amount of seats that matter ...of which at the moment the Tories have one, if they are lucky this won't change and the SNP are predicted to have 40 plus....bit of a difference.

DamnBamboo What we need is not a devolved English Parliament - the MPs for English seats can be that - but a devolved English Government answerable to the English Members with the same powers mover England as the Scottish Government has over Scotland.

Better Together was not the motto of the SNP!

Of course it wasn't funny, that is what the independence referendum was all about.

I suppose my point is like the one about the local candidate above, parties can start small, or appear locally, or target seats they would like to represent and if they get enough MPs become influential. There's nothing wrong per se with influence being exerted by a party who didn't put up candidates in other seats. I don't see it as a democratic right to be able to NOT vote for a party by having them appear on my ballot paper.

I understand your concern. The SNP's first loyalty is to the people of Scotland. Before it was hardly fair either. Scotland being represented by one Conservative MP when the Conservatives were in power. This was not in the interests of Scotland. Personally speaking I think they should have voted for independence. But some think that power without independence is what they want. Probably the best and most boring outcome would be a LD and Conservative coalition. I don't want labour.

Yes Andrew that's what I meant

So why assume people who don't want to see SNP holding power at wESTMINSTER don't see us as "better together " in the Union?

It's a not contradictory position.

If they're not on a ballot paper, you know nothing about how many do or conversely how many don't vote for them! If they fielded candidates in the rest of the UK, we'd be seeing a lot less of her smug grin, that's for sure.

I wonder how people in Northern Ireland feel, always governed from WM by parties they can't vote for?

Hirples They too have substantial devolution now.

Agree hirples it's not great. Also, why weren't they represented in the leaders debate?

Good point re leaders debate. There's been talk of the DUP propping up a Tory gvt, I think the rest of the UK should hear about their policies.

Though that would then open the door to Respect Party leader, Gorgeous George... and most of us can't vote for them either.

The debate should have been amongst parties who could in theory win enough seats to form a majority on their own. Separate debate for all the rest. I don't give a flying fuck what George Galloway, or some of the rest think to be honest.

So just Miliband and Cameron, then? The thing is, this time round, for possibly the first time ever, the vote of every MP could swing things on any given proposal, shouldn't we all know who they are, and what they stand for?

No. They should all have their say. But it's all down to positioning. Why is Natalie Bennett even up there (for so many reasons) ?

Whoever came up with the phrase "the scottish tail wagging the english dog" should be banned from coming up with phrases forever. Its just utter shite and pretty offensive to be honest.

And the whole thing about SNP pushing through policies at the expense of England? FFS do your maths. Exactly how many Scottish MP's do you think there are?

SNP will vote for uk policies in line with its own, which will benefit the rest of the country, not big business and not just the south east. Yes, one of the policies is Scottish Independence, but they have many, many other policies which are in line with Labours left and theres a chance they might be able to 'encourage' policies that are fairer, kinder and more socially democratic.

clean where I have I talked about the type of policies SNP MPs would vote for? I just don't think ANY party (in this case the SNP) who most of the country can't vote for, should be in any position of substantial power! Irrespective of their policies or their promises. B