To not want the SNP to form part of teh next government.

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I have nothing against the SNP but they have (obviously) got their own agenda.

I want the next government to put the UK first not Scotland.

Mega lolzz! I forgot the full title of the anti-indi campaign was "Better Together but really though you have no fucking business in Westminster, so keep your tartan beaks out".

Was on the fence for the GE as I vote for who is best for my local area but shall sharing this on facebook as the reason I have just 100% decided to vote SNP!

Get that up ye!

Jeez can you imagine an alliance between those two...think I would be off back to Singapore...or further....

Better Together but really though you have no fucking business in Westminster, so keep your tartan beaks out

Yes, because that's what's being said here isn't it . There's no empathy at all with the shitty situation that Scot's often find themselves in due to not being represented appropriately.

*You're missing the ypoint!

You HAD the option to vote Tory. You clearly didn't want to, that's your choice. Being governed by a party you don't like but could vote for is one thing.

Being partially governed by a party you can't vote for and therefore can't make a protest vote against is a whole other problem*

No I think everyone understands your point, its just your point is ridiculous by most standards.

We don't have a system whereby parties are rated on the number of votes they didn't gain. If we did, no party would ever get to run the country!! In my constituency 4000 people voted tory with a turnout of 40,000, which is only 65% turnout of the demographic. Care to work that into a percentage of the total population for me because my head is boggled from listening to you.

So you see, govs aren't decided on "well look how many people didn't vote labour they should come last" its decided on how many votes they do get. To say SNP shouldn't have a say in westminster because they got 0% of the vote in London or Manchester is ludicrous if they got 60% of the vote in Glasgow.

And as for your protest vote, how the hell do you count a protest vote anyway? Are the 43% who voted labour in my area last year real votes for labour or just protest votes for the SNP?

Vote for who you want in power. You've already said up thread you don't know who your going to vote for, so maybe concentrate on that instead of investing time in a party you can't make a protest vote against!

Seriously, I voted no but I can see why 45% of the country quite fancied their chances, utterly ridiculous that in a democracy you're claiming people shouldn't be able to vote for a party of their choice just because someone else can't not vote for them. Oh but wait, you can not vote for them and your not going to, so your point is a joke in the first place.

And can I just add, though I might get slated i'm beyond caring, posters like you and a fair few others on this thread are contributing to the reason Nicola and the SNP will NEVER quit their independence agenda. Because with every person who reads "the SNP have no place in westminster" and "i get chills at the thought of the SNP making deals" another NO voter starts to look at the YES side slightly more apethetically.

The hypocrasy and anti-scottishness of it reeks, like a tory or labour vote is worth more than a second class SNP one.

Yet people quite happily chime on here about how westminster needs a complete overhaul and the whole thing needs knocked down and started afresh, and oh I have no idea who to vote for cause they're all shite. Hmmmm ok then

Hamiltoes

I am giving you a slow handclap....well said

Yes hamiltoes except you are firstly completely ignoring my point and also selectively copying my comments.

If the SNP were to field candidates in every constituency UK wide, like the Tories or Labour for example, they would fair worst of all. No doubt in my mind.

I can see why Scotland would want independence! Absolutely. But being a part of the 'rest of the UK' I don't want the SNP, who first and foremost represent the interests of Scotland, to be in a position to make any decisions for me.

Is that quite simple enough for you.

Yet people quite happily chime on here about how westminster needs a complete overhaul and the whole thing needs knocked down and started afresh, and oh I have no idea who to vote for cause they're all shite. Hmmmm ok then hmm

Yes, so let's allow a party in who doesn't give a fuck about the 'rest of the UK' .

Fuck off with your idiotic, inflammatory use of the term Westminster.

Nicola and the SNP will NEVER quit their independence agenda

I genuinely hope you achieve your goals. I can understand why you would want to. But I think the hatred under these cirumstances is very much unidirectional.

How rude are you, damn bamboo?

I am no ruder than that the utterly malevolent 'Westminster' directed at me. I also utterly rejects posts aimed at me, apparently quoting me on things I simply didn't say. RTFT

Evening all
Peace and love

Yes Peace and Love, although don't worry about people completely misquoting others and leaving it stand eh Olivia?

Yup, rude.

The last resort when losing an argument.

No! Genuinely commenting on the intellectual capability of those who post apparently opposing comments and being inflammatory with it. RTT or don't bother commenting.

I'm reading it! I'm trying not to, because I keep getting killed in my game of assasins creed here, but I'm utterly distracted by that well known phenomenon of someone bring wrong on the Internet. Westminster isn't a sweary word?

Funny isn't it how it was all 'we love you Scotland, ' and 'better together' during the referendum.

Then Scots vote 'No' and exercise their democratic right to vote for a political party.

And now it's all about how Scotland should just occupy itself with Scottish matters.

So which is it?

No of course not.
But to those even remotely interested in, and who care about politics. from a Scot in this context, it's a pejorative term!

Damn

I have , unfortunately, read the whole thread and you have been fairly inflammatory yourself

" from a Scot", can you explain this?

As an English person who had no vote (objectionable in itself for many reasons!) I completely understand a Yes vote.

I am not a 'we love you Scotland' person but not because I dislike Scotland, but rather understand why you would want to go.

Havnt read the whole thread but being scottish i have endured many , many years in my life being governed by a right wing governent I would never support , my taxes have supported trident which I totally object to but I have accepted that this is part of being in a democracy. The SNP will not be in a majority in parliament but may well wield some influence and be able to curb right wing tendencies in the way the labour party used to. A party not having it all their own way in westminster is not the worst thing to happen imo-it might actually open up politics and policies to some good old fashioned honest debate. Do people not want that -some balance. I dont agree with everything the SNP does but they are the only truly left of centre party left and we have had too many years of this country being london centric

That doesn't explain your comment" from a Scot"

I'm an English person who did get to vote. And I voted Yes. Partly because I think it's wrong that Scottish MPs vote on English matters.