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Think future DIL is trying to separate us from our DS

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LifeAndThymes · 31/03/2015 20:55

DS moved out from our home about 4 years ago, to set up home with his then girlfriend, which we were over the moon about. However she subsequently cheated on him, several times, and, understandably, they split up. Only 5 months later he started dating another young woman and she moved in with him after 8 months together which I thought was fast, especially as she had a daughter, 7 years old at the time, but she seemed very nice and sweet so I was happy for DS. Since then however I've started to see a different side of her and worry she's trying to take over DS's life and stop him being so close to his family, especially as DS is so gentle and will do anything for anyone so might be a 'soft touch' for her to control.

It's difficult to make clear what I mean as it's every day/week things but some major things are;

They moved 170 miles away 6 months ago when DS had always lived in the same town, with all his close family and friends and most of his extended family here, and he'd never before even hinted at wanting to move away.

They got engaged last month when I know DS wasn't at all keen before on marriage after the betrayal of his last girlfriend, so I'm assuming she instigated the idea. They're already talking about dates in a year or so, so it's not a long engagement type thing.

They came to us for Christmas last year but mentioned about having to alternate Christmas Day between our family and her parents as we're now too far away to do both in one day, which left me reeling as we've always spent Christmas together as a family, DD and her now DH have been happy to do the same (SonIL sees his mother in the evening but they live close to us). No idea what Christmas will be like without DS, and DIL-to-be hinted that they might have some Christmases for just the 3 of them so I don't know how many family ones we'll even have.

On a smaller but far more frequent scale I feel DIL constantly tries to control my DS's life and doesn't want any input from me or my DH (DS's father) to interrupt that. Often I'll suggest something to DS or give some (asked for) advice and he'll genuinely agree and then 9 times out of 10 he'll come back later having spoken to DIL and say 'oh we've decided something different' as she seems to run his life for him. She talks for him some times, seems to decide a lot for both of them even if it's something mainly concerning DS, and is very stubborn/strong willed,eg I was harmlessly ribbing DS one day about a silly mistake he'd made and she roundly told me off as if I was a child!

Really feel as though we're being pushed out, DIL regularly refers to DS, her and her daughter as 'our family' and we seem to be more and more like acquaintances. Worried that soon we'll be completely out of his life.

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soontobemumofthree · 31/03/2015 22:02

29!!

Thinking about it, why would they come for Christmas at all, if your DIL-to-be has a daughter, it would be expected for them to have Christmas together, but not with you, surely with her parents (as they would be grandparents), or at their home. Surely the child would be the first concern at Christmas? (and I'm not talking about your child!)

I agree with pps you have to really change tack here or you will likely get further and further away.

HmmAnOxfordComma · 31/03/2015 22:02

He's 29!!!! He has been an adult for 11 years, OP!

Of course he would refer to his fiancée and her child as his 'family'. They are!

It's completely normal to want to spend Christmas on your own with your own family and not to have to travel over to stay with relatives. Or, if you are into the extended family thing, it's completely fair to alternate between each set of parents. Why on earth would it not be??

And as for having to take advice from you and your Dh...why? He's an adult, she's an adult. I don't get it. I don't think I've asked advice from my parents more than once or twice in the two decades sinces I turned 18. And that's because they raised me so well up until then that post- (and during) University, I was really very independent.

I understand you being protective of him if he has/had health issues but really you are BVVU and quite overbearing. I hope you can make a real effort to not let that come across to him or her, because you will get to see less, not more, of them.

viva100 · 31/03/2015 22:03

Are you my MIL? She thinks the reason her DS doesn't spend as much time with them and moved further away is me. The truth is she was controlling and overbearing and most of the times I am the one pushing him to give her a call/visit. If it were his way he would call her twice a year and never visit. And yes, it all started when we got together. You know why? Because he's finally happy. He realised he doesn't need her approval, that he is an adult, that he wants to build his own family. All the moving, the engagement - he pushed for it, not me. But MIL doesn't see it. She just doesn't see that her son doesn't want to spend every free weekend with her anymore. That he would choose to move to London and not stay in his small home town where there are no career prospects. That he actually enjoys visiting his ILs once in a while. In her opinion, I brainwashed him but it couldn't be further from the truth. You need to accept he's a grown man or you might push him further away.

LifeAndThymes · 31/03/2015 22:04

I will go through slowly and read the whole thread back, has been a whirlwind so far! It's just so different to before, DD visits 3 times a week normally and more often now she's started maternity leave, and DS used to be similar, which makes it a wrench.

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YoureAMeanGirl · 31/03/2015 22:06

That's a lot of visits. More than the norm. Just appreciate that you had them for a time and value them.

Gain another daughter, don't lose a son. Grin

GotToBeInItToWinIt · 31/03/2015 22:06

It's perfectly acceptable to find change difficult OP. Most of us do. But please try to accept that your son is an adult. If you blame your DIL for this you will only end up pushing them all away and the 5 visits a year will become none.

DuelingFanjo · 31/03/2015 22:07

Is DIL a mumsnetter?!

LifeAndThymes · 31/03/2015 22:08

I want to gain another daughter and I refuse to lose my son, I only wish she wanted another 'mother' (in that analogy), not to be the boss of everyone.

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msgrinch · 31/03/2015 22:08

Exactly. She's not the enemy, she loves your son and they're making their life together. This doesn't mean that are excluded. It means you should be proud you raised a man! Smile

Ratfinkandbobo · 31/03/2015 22:09

My Ds lives 10 mins away with his gf and I see him about once every 6 weeks. I know he see gfs parents every week with her. But I'm not bothered, to me that's how it works. He knows I'm here if he needs him, but I don't interfere in his life, or lay claim to him.

Quangle · 31/03/2015 22:09

OP I'm sorry this is so sad for you and I will also find it really hard to let DS grow up and move away (he's five!). But I'll have to. And so will you if you want your DS in your life at all.

Why don't you start another thread about how you might move on from this stage and how you might engage with DIL as a friend - or at least a vaguely positive neutral - not your mortal enemy? You might not be ready to think like that but that's where you need to get to. You've had a battering on here and you've been gracious. I think you now need to do some thinking, lick your wounds and start again with a new approach.

bialystockandbloom · 31/03/2015 22:09

Maybe you're a bit over-invested, or maybe you've got a valid point and your future DIL is trying to cut you out (who really knows?) but god, don't you know that MILs are the devils spawn here on MN so you had no chance the second you pressed post.

LifeAndThymes · 31/03/2015 22:09

Don't think DIL is on here, she said she tried it once but couldn't get on with forums, so I thought I was safe!

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Cheby · 31/03/2015 22:10

Umm, from what you've said it's not your DIL who wants to be the boss of everyone.

msgrinch · 31/03/2015 22:10

No she tried it once apparently

Ionone · 31/03/2015 22:10

He's a grown up. He's nearly thirty. You need to trust him to live his own life.

The most unreasonable part of all this is that you think it's not OK for their family unit to spend Christmas with you and with the other parents in turn and sometimes have their own Christmas. Why on earth do you think they would spend it every year with you? I genuinely don't understand this. Not trying to be mean, I just don't get why you would think that it would be OK for DIL never to see her own parents at Christmas and for her child and any future children never to have Christmas at home.

LifeAndThymes · 31/03/2015 22:10

Ratfink, that's sad, it would really upset me if I felt they preferred her parents.

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Bigbadgeorge · 31/03/2015 22:11

Doesn't sound like she wants to 'be the boss of everybody' more she doesn't want to bossed by you

LittleBairn · 31/03/2015 22:11

That's just life circumstances it's not personal. My sister and her kids see my mum about 3-4 times a week they live in the same town. I live 80 miles away and see much less of her.

Chillyegg · 31/03/2015 22:11

Oh my god OP!

I think you should take the advice by all of the PP's who say you cant carry on like this! If anyone comes across as controlling and needy and demanding its you!

Your son has a mind of his own!
If he wants to move thats fine!
Alternate christmases are fine!
Getting engaged is fine!

Ionone · 31/03/2015 22:12

How is she wanting to be the boss of everyone? I don't get that either. She just wants to have family time with her parents and her own little family.

Ratfinkandbobo · 31/03/2015 22:12

Its not sad, its normal!

bedraggledmumoftwo · 31/03/2015 22:12

If your dd is just starting mat leave and is that close, I would focus on her and your gc and try to forget about this for now. Give them some space.

PuttingouthefirewithGasoline · 31/03/2015 22:14

If they did would they have reason too?

I dont think anything you have said has sounded un reasonable and many couples alternate xmas with one to themselves, perfect! if we all could do this, xmas would be more enjoyable for all I am sure Grin.

some families are more easy going, you feel at home, able to make yourself a cup of tea, relax, people like to be around people who make them feel at ease or good....

PuttingouthefirewithGasoline · 31/03/2015 22:14

anyway op, very interesting insight again into the mind of the MIL Grin

the classic Mil spin..