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To think it is ridiculous that Katie Hopkins is being investigated by police for her tweets.

246 replies

Megatronmum · 31/03/2015 20:13

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3017708/Katie-Hopkins-reported-police-inciting-racial-hatred-tweets-linking-Pakistani-men-Rochdale-child-sex-abuse.html

I'm no fan of Katie but if I'm honest I don't think she should be investigated by police.

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OrlandoWoolf · 31/03/2015 20:58

One day she will get her comeuppance. Her mouth knows no bounds.

"While another added: “Sun columnist tells Holcaust family member to gas his wife. Either very stupid or extremely offensive. Care to tell us which? (sic)”

Katie appeared to dismiss the offense caused by her tweet yesterday, as she wrote: “Look peeps, Jews and Gays love me. Get over it. The Scots and Palestinians aren't so keen. I give you that.”

Chippednailvarnish · 31/03/2015 20:59

Welcome to MN op (second time today I've got to say this on a thread).

I reserve the right to shout Bingo if MMHQ pop up later telling us that the OP isn't quite right.

OrlandoWoolf · 31/03/2015 20:59

The way I interpret it is that the pakistani abusers were friends with the council and that's why they were protected

You've done the same thing. Applied a general label to people.

Bakeoffcake · 31/03/2015 20:59

She's a nasty, thick troll and I hope the police do interview her. It might shut her up for 5 minutes.

Her tweet about Ed Milliband's wife was abhorrent.

OrlandoWoolf · 31/03/2015 21:00

Would you say:

the black abusers?
The gay abusers?

If not, why is it ok to say the Pakistani abusers?

Megatronmum · 31/03/2015 21:06

Perfectly purple white people are majourity so will commit more sexual abuse then Pakistani men who are a minority.

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ghostyslovesheep · 31/03/2015 21:08

her tweet about Ed Milliband putting his wifes head in a gas oven was vile

I don't see her tweeting about white MP's or DJ's who where involved in child abuse on a massive scale - funny that

Megatronmum · 31/03/2015 21:09

Orlando pretending that race did not play a role is a dangerous route.

The men targeted white working clas girls. To target one race like that is racism.

And to your question yes if the overwhelming majority of abusers were black I would call them a gang of black abusers same with any group.

What Katie did that was wrong was she blamed Abuse on the Pakistani perpetrators when actually it was a mix of problems that caused the systematic abuse of young girls.

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fairyfuckwings · 31/03/2015 21:12

No I haven't - I was using her words. She obviously said "pakistani friends" but I was interpreting her to mean abusers rather than friends.

I'm not really defending her as I can't stand her. Just saying that I don't think she's trying to "incite racial hatred". I think she's more trying to incite hatred towards the Rochdale labour council.

Megatronmum · 31/03/2015 21:12

It was solely allowed to continue because of classism In my opinon.

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OrlandoWoolf · 31/03/2015 21:13

megatron

I don't think anyone is denying that race was ignored in this case and people were afraid to talk about it.

But - do you see the issue with using a label like that? Most Pakistani men are not abusers - as you said. To say Pakistani abusers - it applies in some people's mind an assumption that Pakistani men are abusers.

It applies to any other group - put the group "type" in front of a horrible word and it creates an association - just like Muslim terrorists etc.

If you don't belong to a group that gets labelled in such ways, you might not be able to appreciate what that means.

PuttingouthefirewithGasoline · 31/03/2015 21:18

however thinking about it I think raising the flag at this point in time so soon after the inquiries was also in sensitive.

Megatronmum · 31/03/2015 21:18

Orlando if you hear the term Pakistani child abuse gang I think a gang of people who are of Pakistani heritage who have committed child abuse.

I think most people with a brain cell would know that the actions of one group do not reflect a whole community.

That said the Pakistani community in Rotherham does have a lot to answer for because I read an article about how child abuse was known by the community but not reported.

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Megatronmum · 31/03/2015 21:19

Also this is Britain we should be flying the British flag over our town halls.

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PuttingouthefirewithGasoline · 31/03/2015 21:19

its in senstive to the families also who went though hell.

fairyfuckwings · 31/03/2015 21:20

I should also point out that I live very close to Rochdale. It's a very divided town and there have been a lot of racial tensions over the years.

OrlandoWoolf · 31/03/2015 21:21

I think most people with a brain cell would know that the actions of one group do not reflect a whole community

Thing is - people don't.

PuttingouthefirewithGasoline · 31/03/2015 21:22

Interesting Fairy, apparently many nationalities living cheek by jowl brings cohesion according to most MNetters.

PuttingouthefirewithGasoline · 31/03/2015 21:22

They do orlando.

Megatronmum · 31/03/2015 21:25

They do Orlando. Most people who are not bnp/Britain first would understand that not everyone in a particular group reflects the action of one.

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AWholeLottaNosy · 31/03/2015 21:25

I think the best punishment for this vile specimen is a total ban on social media. Deny her the 'oxygen of publicity' as that what she thrives on. Race is such a sensitive subject especially at the moment we don't need someone like her making such inflammatory comments. I'm glad the police are investigating her.

BreakWindandFire · 31/03/2015 21:27

She said that? Fucking hell. She does know his background?

Yes she does. And if Piers Morgan has to take the high moral ground against you, you really are screwed. She batted back objections as freedom of speech and lefty outrage. She's entitled to do that, but I'm astonished that she's a national newspaper columnist.

Megatronmum · 31/03/2015 21:27

Awhole would be like the witch in the wizard of oz. I'm melting Grin

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OrlandoWoolf · 31/03/2015 21:30

The Romanian crimewave
Pakistani sexual abuse
Black gun crime
Muslim terrorist
Benefit cheats

Can you see the negative labels attached? All reinforces "othering" and "labelling" of a group?

It's difficult to appreciate if you don't belong to a group that gets targetted and has negative labels attached. If you can't see that, you've probably got the privilege of being in a group that does not get labelled negatively.

Megatronmum · 31/03/2015 21:32

Orlando surely it is a classification.

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