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Dawndonnaagain · 27/03/2015 18:58

Latest leaks on welfare cuts, may just be ideas being posited but still fucking nasty.

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PausingFlatly · 31/03/2015 13:43

So to be recap, a disabled person might be receiving care and benefits to the value of £100s a week. All of which is simply intended to bring them up to the starting point a fit person takes for granted. (Often it can't - amount isn't enough, or no money could change some things.)

Separate from that, disabled people need income like everyone else.

Some may work.
Some may be supported by spouses.
Some may be officially unable to work and get ESA.
Some may be officially unable to work and NOT get ESA.
Some may be nominally able to work but employers consider them unemployable due to sickness absences.
And so on.

You can see that some groups are pretty screwed.

The introduction of mandatory work (or work-related activity) for people officially too sick to work has been particularly damaging. People are becoming sick and/or being sanctioned, trying and failing to meet the demands.

smokepole · 31/03/2015 13:48

Dawn. Its called the 'Enhanced Disabilty Premium' and it is £15.75 Per week so ESA Support Group should be £107.95 +15.75 = £123.70 going up to a total of £125.05 in early April .

smokepole · 31/03/2015 13:48

Dawn. Its called the 'Enhanced Disabilty Premium' and it is £15.75 Per week so ESA Support Group should be £107.95 +15.75 = £123.70 going up to a total of £125.05 in early April .

smokepole · 31/03/2015 13:49

Sorry Double posted....

HelenaDove · 31/03/2015 14:01

I dont normally watch these kinds of shows but i was watching Britains Benefit Tenants last night.

A woman was evicted because of rent arrears built up while she was on a zero hours contract with Argos.

She was trying to get rehoused and was told she would have to move out of London to achieve this and so have to quit the job she currently has.

According to the recap at the end of the programme she was rehoused out of London and now has to commute 4 hours every day to a low paid job.

She was getting as little as 2 hours a week at Argos and while all this was going on her daughter was doing her GCSEs.

Dawndonnaagain · 31/03/2015 14:04

Smoke that is for income related ESA, so not everyone gets it.

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PausingFlatly · 31/03/2015 14:41

Thank you for giving the name of the benefit, smokepole, which is helpful.

It seems to be a complex supplement to income-related benefits, ie Income Support and possibly income-related ESA, both of which are less than the contributions-based support-group ESA in the first place.

So the only thing I can say for sure is you DON'T do the sum you did!

It does not get added to the max contribution-based ESA amount of £108.15.

PausingFlatly · 31/03/2015 14:58

Looking further... there are historic mentions of Enhanced Disability Premium wrt to income-related ESA.

But on the Gov.uk site I can only currently find it mentioned for people receiving Income Support. Eligibility perhaps being triggered by a partner's ESA?

The site that mentions it says to check carefully whether this EDP supplement will actually give a family more money in total, as applying for ESA could work out more. So I'd be surprised if it took anyone past the £108.15 in total - or rather past £216.30 for a couple.

But knowing it exists might be useful to some here, so thanks for identifying it, smokepole. The DWP doesn't exactly rush to tell people about disability benefits they're eligible for, IME.

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