Neighbour won't give me my parcel!

[Nannyplum2015]

I've problems with this neighbour before over parking.

She's had a parcel of mine since Wednesday last week and I know she is in but she is refusing to open the door. Wibu if I knocked the door down? It's a present I need to give to someone on Saturday.

Cross posted with antumbra. I'm in full agreement.

collaborate - I agree 100%- but as you say the theft needs to be chased up by the retailer, not the OP.

If you have proof she has your parcel then phone the police and report it as stolen.

wreckingball- that is up to the retailer. The parcel was not stolen from the OP- technically it was stolen from the retailer.

I sometimes sign for things for my neighbour, if there's no record of her taking it in you've probably lost it but I'd put a note on my door telling the post not to leave anything at no. ? in future.

The idea that neighbour is "allowed" to keep parcel is incorrect. The MSE thread mentioned above makes reference to either a misunderstanding, or a very lazy police officer's remarks.

Crazy NDN's retention of Nanny's parcel is eminently reportable as theft, as many have already said. One of the key requirements of theft is that there is an intention to permanently deprive rightful owner of the item. Given that crazy NDN has effectively twice refused to return parcel leaves the great possibility that she intends to keep it permanently.

I would:

1. Pop note through crazy NDN's letterbox stating parcel ordered as present and required imminently, and if parcel not received in next 24 hours,then police will be informed

2. As others have righly said, at same time inform supplier that parcel has been deliberately withheld / stolen, so can they please send another. As PP have rightly said, the contract for delivery is between the supplier and courier / Royal Mail, and the mess is theirs to resolve.

Good luck Nanny. Woohoo! Nanny's crazy NDN is misbehaving again. Please film and post crazy NDN being carted off in handcuffs

I stronly suggest the OP keeps things simple.

No notes, no banging on doors.
She ordered an item and it has not arrived. Simple.

If the retailer decided to use a courier with a suspect policy, carrier pigeon, or dodgey Dave his brother in law to deliver the parcel- then that is up to them.

It's not the OPs place to be putting notes through the door.

I would usually agree antumbra, however, when you know your neighbour has the item, it would be inviting her to steal regularly from the OP if left unchallenged!

Lawyering time - I highly doubt that your retailer will give you a refund if the parcel has been signed for just next door. They're certainly not required to, and saying you haven't received it when you know full well that next door has is probably fraud.

But... This is theft.

Theft is the (i) appropriation (ii) of property (iii) belonging to another (iv) with the intention to permanently deprive.

All elements fit - she has appropriated by taking in a parcel with your name on, it is property, you paid for it and therefore own it and she is clearly intending not to give it to you.

I would leave her a note through the door and inform her that if she doesn't have it at your house by tomorrow, you'll be informing the police. then follow through if she doesn't give it back. Call 101 and ask them to investigate.

Next, call Royal Mail and tell them to put a report on file with your local sorting office that your parcels should never be left with that neighbour. I would also suggest a note in your window to this effect.

Wow, I've spent the last 12hours or so reading these threads. (A lifesaver when up in the night with dd).

It's been highly entertaining but I do feel for you op. It can't be enjoyable living next to someone like this. Thank you for selflessly sharing with us..

And seriously, hope you get your parcel sorted!

duchess- but does the OP own the property?

THe contract was that the item would be delivered in return for payment the retailer has not fulfilled the contract.

She doesn't technically own the item until it has been delivered to her. Which it hasn't. The onus is still with the retailer. Suggesting that delivery is complete and accepted just because the retailer's delivery contractor failed still breeches the contract.

Unless the buyer agreed that the item could be left with a neighbour fault lies with the retailer.

www.which.co.uk/consumer-rights/problem/my-parcel-was-left-with-a-neighbour-who-denies-having-it

Well your neighbour is truly passive-aggressive isn't she? I think you are doing the right thing by being calm, dignified, etc in the face of the ultimate brass neck OP. It does seem that your only course of action is to go back to the company you bought the sweater from for them to sort out a replacement for you.

I know this gets blasted on MN, but I believe in karma - this nasty piece of work will get her comeuppance.

I've opted out with Royal Mail for future neighbour deliveries. So St least she can't do it again with those parcels. She's rude and entiltwd and getting on my nerves now. The only positive is that I never hear a peep from her otherwise.

I wish I could get NAR involved but it's not his problem!

Send her this nanny.

'Dear Nutjob,

I spoke to the police this morning about you withholding my parcel, who confirmed that with proof that it was delivered to your home, I can obtain a crime number and pursue the matter as theft.

I have confirmation from Royal Mail that you were the recipient, and am giving you 24 hours to release the parcel to me. After that time, I will:

• obtain a crime number and take advice from the police on pursuing the matter;
• notify management for our properties of the ongoing issues with your antisocial behaviour and ask their advice on making a formal complaint;
• pursue recompense for the parcel, either via the police or through the civil courts.

As I cannot imagine that either a criminal or civil judgement against you would be worth the difficulties it could cause you in life and at your work simply for the pleasure you seem to get in displaying antisocial behaviour, I'd suggest it would be easier for you to return my parcel.

Yours, Nannyplum.'

*nanny, true that it's not his problem, but it would be good to keep him and FONAR in the loop on the new developments?

Really hope you're sorting out your gift prob for saturday. All the best!

Follow this up with the post office and then the police again.
she has committed a crime by refusing to hand over your property.

Ask someone else to knock?

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Is the world a wonderful place ? So considerate of them.

Sylvanian's suggestion is perfect and leaves no room for doubt. I'd use that as soon as possible.

Good grief. She's a piece of work, isn't she.

I had it the other way around, last year. A neighbour never answered the door to accept their parcel that I'd had a week. In their case, though, I could dump it behind their shed and leave a PA note. Job done.

Not much you can do when they've blatantly stolen your parcel and won't hand it over, though.

She's brilliant! For no other reason than it keeps us entertained

I'd pay some neighbourhood kids to egg her house.

Go and ask NAR to FONAR to knock on her door and ask for your parcel!