So Nigel finally shows his true colours

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-31846453

axing equality laws

Open-mouthed at this.

Although I really shouldn't be.

What the fuck is 'we are a colourblind party' supposed to actually mean?

I guess colourblind means they are not racist...just wanting British born to be prioritised. Common sense really.

So they're colourblind until it comes to employing someone, when they feel they should have the right eliminate entire groups of people according to their nationality and/or skin colour.

Right. Common sense.

Showy, I wonder how your FB friend accounts for all those England flags whenever the England team is playing any mainstream sport, on St George's Day, on the Last Night of the Proms - and indeed, for example, flying on top of our local church? It's like the similar idiots who proclaim that we're not allowed to celebrate Christmas any more whilst walking down High Streets full of Christmas decorations and past churches proudly displaying their list of Advent and Christmas services.

Ukip is popular with idiots who instead of trying to work together to make the country and world better for everybody, want to blame a group of people and be angry. Stupid, small minded racists who have no idea what the real problems facing this country arex

Softly, softly...

Remember this is only the first step, one that he feels able to admit to without too much fuss. It won't stop there, it's the same system all such extremists use. It's what Hitler did with the Jews.

First you make it difficult for the people you dislike to get a job.

Then you tell people without a job that they won't get any benefits or social housing. Without a job they won't get NHS treatment. So they end up on the streets.

You can't have filthy diseased people living on the streets so if they are immigrants you send them 'home'.

If you can't send them home then you round up the remaining people and put them in secure camps 'for their own good'.

And once they are out of sight ...

I don't understand the problem so many posters have with the idea that we SHOULD prioritise jobs for British workers.

I fully appreciate the 'luck' that any British person who was either born here OR who came here legally has. But it is human nature, (understandably so, to me) to want to protect and favour our own.

Would all those who disagree, prefer to see their children and family go without in favour of 'others'?

Really, because it's very simple...you can just give away all your money, possessions etc...nothings stopping you.

But we don't do that do we? Because we value our own close family, preferentially. Then we look to our extended family then our neighbours, our community, hopefully our country. We can only do so much. The reality is if we keep trying to 'be fair' and mend the ills of the whole world by allowing everybody who wishes to come here WE WILL FAIL.

Nothing wrong with looking after our own, oneday, but my African neighbours are my community. My Czech friend is 'my own'.

It doesn't have to be us and them.

You can't just turn up in other countries and expect to be able to get a job. There are such things as work permits. Which doesn't seem to happen in the UK. So I think that's the point he's making.

Well yes you can Viviennemary, that's one of the founding principles of the EU. We should prioritise giving jobs to the people who are the most qualified and skilled to do the job. Otherwise, my Italian DH who has lived and worked in this country for the last 17 years making a real and, not insubstantial, contribution to this country and it's economy should go back to Italy and give his job to someone less qualified?

Course there are work permits. Just not for eu citizens. There is already legislation which means uk/eu workers get preference over non eu (who need permits).

Can't stand NF and UKIP.

On the point about emigration - we have thought about it and as the suitable jobs would be outside the EU it would be v. difficult. I don't find that surprising or insulting - should I?

Which is why I personally think we should get out of the EU. And it isn't a founding principle of the EU. We in the UK have never had a chance to vote on whether we wanted to be ruled by the EU. It was at first set up as a Trade community. Nothing to do with people allowed to claim benefits and work here.

EU migrants made a net contribution to the British economy of around £20 billion between 2000 and 2011. I wouldn't be so quick to get rid of them.

There was a very interesting fake documentary on Storyville on iPlayer on the potential consequences of exiting the EU. Would be disastrous in my opinion.

A recent poll showed that the UK was the 2nd most desired place in the world to come and live and work. 37% of 200,000 people polled wanted to come here.

www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/11142074/London-is-most-desirable-global-city-to-move-to-for-work.html

Taken as a percentage of world population this translates to 2.6 BILLION people who would like to come to the UK for a better life.

We are of course very fortunate that people think so highly of our country, it's institutions, and our way of life. Yet at the same time the sheer numbers of people clamouring to come here makes us vulnerable.

If there are healthy levels of immigration then it follows that there must be unhealthy levels too. Those who are outraged at any talk of border control have no thoughts about what unlimited immigration actually means for the future of the country.

How many is too many? At the moment 600k immigrants come every year. Is 1 million too many? 2 million? Where do you draw the line? And why, when you draw it, doesn't that make you a "racist" too?

It's a rehash of Gordon Brown's 'British jobs for British people'

That didn't end well either.

scatteroflight is bang on the money.

If we let in everyone that wants to come to the UK, we would end up a third world country. Simple as that.

Jobs for British workers? Sorry, I don't believe 'British' people actually want to work - certainly not the jobs that 'foreigners' take.

Who'd do all the 'carers' jobs? Almost 100% foreigners. Cleaners? Ditto. Unsociable hours? Nope - can't get a 'british' person to even apply.

we would end up a third world country. Simple as that.

Could you expand on that?

Sorry I should have said in my initial post - I meant UKIP always CLAIM not to be racist. They can't really say that now.

What he is saying is rather horse stable door, bolted.

You try and get a work visa in Canada, to live there.

They have narrowed down 100's of skills they needed down to below 100.

You then need to be offered a job.

That company has to prove you are not going to be depriving a Canadian of that job, ie advertised it and none to fill it.

You then need to jump through numerous hoops to get there, prove ££ in bank and that you will be of added benefit to the country and not a burden on it.

I believe the same goes for most countries.

I think its because a Governments first priority is the people in that country, their welfare and well being.

Sorry, I don't believe 'British' people actually want to work - certainly not the jobs that 'foreigners' take.

Isn't it rather racist to label Brits as lazy and such? I think its a fallacy promoted by Labour to cover up the cracks in their immigration policy.

We need immigration and it was never an issue or a problem before the last Labour Government. We need a flow of peoples all over the world, what we don't need is what Labour gave us.

A country flooded with millions in a very short space of time, no budgets, no planning, no forcasts ( bar the 14, 000 figure someone came up with) no extra services, no plans for school expansion and so, on.

I'm sure that survey was truly representative of people of all nationalities and backgrounds, scatter and was truly open ended, rather than multi choice

Collectively, immigrants put more into our economy than they take out. We all GAIN by having immigrants in the UK.

Farage is displaying a very worrying lack of understanding of the law. In his interview he was asked about discrimination and equality laws, parts of which he said he'd do away with. In subsequent questioning he's talking about employment law, which covers different things. Either he doesn't actually know the laws he's trying to change, or he's taking us for mugs by pretending things are different to how they actually are. Or both.

ptumbi I agree with you! Some of our potential British workforce don't want to do the jobs the outsiders do (I watched the brilliant 'The Romanians Are Coming' TV programme). It really made me open my eyes and I felt real respect and also sadness for the Romanians coming here to work despite terrible living conditions. They also seemed far happier on the whole than some of our British people!

Whilst I do feel for the Romanians and other migrant/immigrant workers in a way and feel we should encourage them to work here if/when they want to, I also feel we should support British workers or make the menial jobs more attractive in some way by way of wages or whatever. Don't know how that would work in practice. Otherwise we'll have more and more feckless unemployed and give the likes of UKIP more reason to be racist and bigoted towards immigrants/migrants etc.