Aibu to be schooled at the stats about muslims

[Inabitoftyhme]

www.telegraph.co.uk/news/religion/11433776/Quarter-of-British-Muslims-sympathise-with-Charlie-Hebdo-terrorists.html

I think this study is worrying and also fantastic at the same time.

Worrying over the Charlie Hebdo 27%. But fantastic that 93% feel british.

but the poll is not saying it shouldn't be protected it's just saying some of the Muslims polled understand why people object to it

May I suggest thinking about the intended tone and context of a message before you start patronising people. I was sarcastic saying that Family Guy offends me and I fully support freedom of speech.

So what if mahammed was not supposed to be drawn according to the catholic church homosexuality is wrong but you have many Catholics who are gay and practice faith.

Sorry lasaor

why? maybe common sense and decency have won - what reason would anyone have TO publish it except to offend?

people are allowed to object to offensive stuff being published be they gay, black, atheist, Christian, Jewish or Muslim

yes but they don't snog in the pews during mass

I was listening to Radio 4 this morning whilst in bed as my DW was getting the 3 DC ready for school. The benefit of being 'the working Mum' Hehehe, I digress ... There was a beautifully eloquent young man on the radio who happened to be Muslim and he made a few very excellent points. Firstly he felt it unfair that the attackers at Charlie Hebdo were referred to as Muslim or Islamic by the media at large. He stated that their actions are in direct violation of everything Muslims believe and hold as sacred. His second point was that part of being a British person was understanding that it is perfectly acceptable to offend, however it is also perfectly acceptable to be offended, this is part of freedom of speech. When asked whether he felt he could condone the actions of the Muslim men who carried out the attack on Charlie Hebdo, his simple reply was perfect. 'They were men, but not Muslim ... I don't understand it let alone condone it' Nuff said really.

If you think not drawing the prophet means the terrorists have won, who wins when the prophet is drawn in porn poses to deliberately offend many Muslims?
It's only going to alienate the Muslims who then think they're not welcome in that society.
Again, I'm not saying it shouldn't be done but what's the point if it really?

But Muslims don't have to buy charlie Hebdo

It's not about it being right it's about the right to publish something. Everyone can find anything offensive including my posting doesn't mean I should silence myself because of it. What about all the Muslims who don't find Charlie Hebdo offensive.

The point is to be humorous which I think the cartoons were do you think it could ever be people being to easily offended.

because, as stated, Islam prohibits the portrayal of images of Mohammed

I don't care what islam prohibits. I am not a muslim, neither were the cartoonists. we don't have to follow it's prescriptions.

Again, I'm not saying it shouldn't be done but what's the point if it really?

that particular image, I don't know the point, but who cares? We don't need to know the point of all these things.

depicting the prophet as a paedophile or with a bomb in his turban makes and obvious point.

Yes you can, as long as you're not doxxing me to isis... ;)

I will have to read the survey - I am not sure how many Muslims asked said it shouldn't be published ...

or maybe they where not asked - maybe that's not the issue - the issues I feel is that some found it offensive and some understood why it produced that action it did (not sympathised just understood)

so I'm not sure arguing about free speech and the right to publish is really relevent

KkcupcakeI agree the right to be offended is part of freedom of speech. It concerns me that people don't even want Muslims to SAY they are offended.

Keepitssimple but it's not the point it's the right to publish the cartoons. What about Ukip I hate Ukip but I agree that they have a right to exist

Keep no one is suggesting you should

people have just made the point that publishing something simply to be offensive is questionable practice - not that you should be banned from doing so

Lem73 everyone has the right to be offended but that doesn't mean it should not be published because of it.

people have just made the point that publishing something simply to be offensive is questionable practice - not that you should be banned from doing so

questionable in what way?

people say all sorts of things that I disagree with. I either respond or ignore. if someone isn't saying anything interesting and being offensive at a basic level, they will simply be ignored.

grow a thicker skin. ignore it.

Inabit who is saying it shouldn't be published?

I'm confused by this thread

The press are so scared of people being offended that they don't publish things it is a threat to freedom of speech. I read an article about a Muslim lady who was selling Charlie Hebdo in her shop because she as a Muslim believed that it was the right thing to do. She was not offended so was not the Muslims who I know who also found the pictures funny that's why I said the survey was shocking and the 24% were shocking.

because with free speech comes responsibility

no one has free speech without recompense - if you stand up and say 'kill all black people' or 'kill all gays' you are committing a crime - regardless of your right to say it

if you publish something you KNOW is going to be highly provocative and offensive SIMPLY because it's provocative and offensive I think that's wrong - but on no level am I saying don't - I just think it's pretty lazy journalism

Keepitsimple disagreeing with something is not the same as being offended by material deliberately intending to offend you.
It's not like it's a joke or a viewpoint, it was deliberately provoking and created to cause offense.
That's why I question it. Not the censorship of it though. Just the need for it.

There is a big difference between saying something criminal and Charlie Hebdo

who is scared - which 'press' ?

Muslims are individuals - you understand - so while some Christians would go batty dip shit over 2 men snogging others would not care less

Ditto Muslims and pictures

76% felt differently