to think they should charge the Syria girls

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If they are indeed with terrorists in Syria then when a small chink of sense comes back to them and they want to come home, I hope they will be charged.

Vulnerable minds are lured in to cults all the time - this one is a fucking lethal cult but it can happen to adults so children are easy targets - it is very sad - preventing it happening again is what needs to happen but with the internet I don't see how.

Perhaps they are banking on the Greens getting in as consorting with terrorists will be perfectly fine then.

I'm sure we can get them for walking on the cracks in the pavement too.

limited I take it by that comment that you think that willingly joining a bunch of murderers is fine and there should be no consequences?

These girls will know what they are doing - sort of. When the Trade Centre in New York had two airliners flown into it, some of the girls at the secondary school where I worked cheered ....

I'm sure we can get them for walking on the cracks in the pavement too.

If those cracks are caused by them setting fire to living people in cages then yes, probably.

I highly doubt that if two teenagers had joined the EDL there would be any sympathy at all.
Why is this any different? They are five years above the age of criminal responsibility. They will have seen what ISIS do. Apparently they believe this is right.

I have no sympathy at all and I don't care if they do get killed out there. Why should I? Apparently they'd be happy to kill me and my child in a heartbeat - If they sympathise with ISIS they hate everything western society stands for.

Yes but we can't allow 'children' to want to kill us all under an ideological facade. I'm sorry, but I think they've made their choice.....sadly.

aiding and abetting war crimes? Seriously? Which war? Where? Is the UK at war with IS? Does the UK have jurisdiction? Or indeed any proof of wrong-doing?

You're all full of it. Read a couple of headlines and think you know what you're talking about!

if someone is radicalised enough to travel to Syria, then they are radicalised enough to lie about their experiences there and their intentions should they return to UK.

I hope these girls are stopped before they get to IS controlled territory. If they are not, then they should be treated as any returing jihadi would be treated on arrival in UK. For I do not see either age or sex can be relied on as an adequate counter.

OP your fevered revenge fantasies and those of other posters remind me of this.

I find you as frightening as the idea of being blown to bits on the Tube if I didn't think you just started this thread because you were bored.

Please tell me you did that.

countess wake up lovey

limitedperiodonly

Does that mean you want the repeal of the Terrorism Act? Or simply that it should not be applied to cerain categories of prima facie offender based on their sex or age?

if a 16 year old white boy is caught racially abusing Asians or plotting to blow up a mosque, I take it that deserves no repercussions either.
And limited my fevered revenge fantasies involve them being charged of any crimes they have committed ( such as associating with terrorists) Not hugely fevered but you're obviously a delicate flower. Though not that delicate if you find me more frightening than being blown up on the tube. You see, the trouble with that attitude is I can guarantee that you are the only person in the UK who would be more frightened of sitting next to me than being blown up by a terrorist ( well, apart from fellow suicide bombers) so I think the majority opinion prevails..

"some of the girls at the secondary school where I worked cheered " that's so depressing EveBoswell how do you even start to respond to that? I can't comprehend how human beings can react to the deaths of thousands of people in that way. I was in a secondary school that day too and I remember a very sombre atmosphere and lots of understandably distressed kids, I'd have felt utterly disgusted if there had been triumphalist responses.

I'm no lawyer farahilda but I guess by your use of the term prima facie you are.

I just assumed that they hadn't committed any criminal offence yet. If and when they do, then they should be brought to justice, if possible.

limited I'd like a link to where I have expressed fevered revenge fantasies, please

Me wake up? I'm not the one suggesting we charge children with war crimes, lovey

These suggestions are idiotic, not to mention entirely baseless.

15 year olds shouldn't be able to get to Syria, for fucks sake. Why not prosecute the parents for child neglect? This suggestion has the benefit of being an actual thing you can charge people with, in a country you have jurisdiction in.

OP, I wouldn't be frightened of sitting next to you on the Tube but I'd probably move away from you.

Limited, I hope the op hasn't started the thread because she was bored. Probably the last thing on her mind tbh.

I'd probably move away from you
Towards the man with the ticking backpack I assume as he'd be less frightening. Are you aware just how insulting you are being?

Towards the man with the ticking backpack

OP I wasn't going to trawl back and link to posts where you'd expressed fevered revenge fantasies, but seeing as you made it so easy...

No, IANAL. But I thought the term was in pretty general use and well understood.

As the OP was based on the premise that they had reached terrorist controlled territory in Syria, then on the face of it they have committed an offence of joining a proscribed organisation (and perhaps other offences under the Terrorism Acts). So expectations that they would be charged with that offence don't seem particularly unusual to me.

(They certainly have not (yet) been found elsewhere, nor have they or any of their associates come forward with a reason to travel not connected to a proscribed organisation).

OK, fire away then limited let's hear the fevered revenge fantasies...