To think that Islamic state will cause world war 3

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I feel terrified for the future. I believe that the world will reach a point where there will be outright war to stop Islamic state. In the meantime Russia will annexe the Ukraine and much of Eastern Europe.

I am scared that Islamic state will get hold of atomic weapons. There are Muslim extremists with the intelligence to make a nuclear bomb. There are Muslim countries with uranium deposits.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium_mining#/media/File:Uranium_production_world.PNG

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But there was a cover up. The social services admitted it, hence why the top brass have been removed. The report very adamantly states there was inaction due to political correctness and fear of offending the muslim community.
It came to light as the scale of abuse became so huge that there was no way of ignoring it any longer. it was public knowledge before the authorities would admit it was happening.

Quite so - my earlier post laid the charge that this was for political purposes. Labour often wins >60% of Asian votes so to act against this abuse was considered akin to shooting oneself in the electoral foot.

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To say Rotherham was nothing to do with a certain section of of the Muslim community is doing great disservice. Along with all other recent convictions there is an over represetned group that are purpatrators. I'm not saying Rotherham was solely down to race/religion but to dismiss it isn't being genuine either.

ISIS have neither the manpower nor resources to cause WW3. They are getting increasingly more isolated. The British and American media disproportionately report ISIS atrocities. The amount of people allied forces kill in their constant pursuit of oil will be much higher.

Muslims are persecuted all over the world by many different factions. They are more often victim than perpetrator but this doesn't suit the media and the establishments agenda so is rarely reported.

The media (and clearly some of you ) are very guilty of only being concerned with crime that effects white people. People of other races and religions are brutally murdered all the time and no one bats an eye lid.

Wilts why so rude - are people with opposing views not allowed to post?

I love the idea that nuclear war won't happen because it's too expensive.

That's the least of its disadvantages.

Have you never heard Tom Lehrer's 'We'll all go together when we go' ?

Quiero - most of the muslims being persecuted are being persecuted by other muslims.

ilove when someone shoots innocent people indiscriminately in a supermarket, for instance, shouting that its vengeance in the name of Allah, it's hard not to make the connection between the terrorist and the religion. They are Islamic terrorists. How they came to be so, especially people like the ones in Paris who were French, born there etc, is another matter and of course radicalisation is going to be linked to poverty.

But for anyone to say that IS, al Qaeda, individual radical terrorists, small cells, british citizens going to join jihad in Syria, caliphates, etc etc are not connected to religion is patently nonsense, and for anyone to cry racism/muslim bashing etc when the connection is mentioned overtly, is why a real debate cannot be fruitful. It is not the whole of the Muslim religion, of course, but it is a strand of it.

"I love the idea that nuclear war won't happen because it's too expensive."

Who said that?

ISIS won't cause WW3 - Russia might though

Edwin Starr?

Knitted agree my take on Rotherham is that the girls were victims of sexist attitudes of good girl/slag. Victims of the abusers and police attitudes

Sexist yes and also political correctness gone mad.

Its known, its proved, steps are being taken to address it, how anyone can try and deny it was to do with fearing being called racist has got their head in the sand, its not open for debate its fact.

They are getting increasingly more isolated

One does wonder what the strategy is, beheading people from other nations and giving them all more cause to join in fight against them. Jordon/Japan/Eypgt etc.

quiero many of the brutal murders you mention are also being done in the name of religion - the largest proportion of victims of IS are also Muslim, of course. The abhorrence felt is not because this is "affecting white people". Speaking only for myself, the abhorrence is because of the connection to religion, and because these people are barbarically and inhumanly slaughtering the people of Iraq, Egypt, Jordan, Syria etc supposedly because they do not adhere to that branch of Islam.

theweek.com/articles/449783/dont-worry-world-war-iii-almost-certainly-never-happen

Just so we can all sleep tonight.

I think the halal issue was introduced as a slippery slope to appeasing religious practises in a secular society.

But we are not (sadly) a secular society...

it's not 'political correctness gorn mad' it shit management and bad training - and general sexist attitudes to young vulnerable girls

Yes the fact that people didn't want to be seen as racist was ONE issue but not the only one

It certainly needed addressing and challenging but I think you'll find most none managers where trying to do that

Often the young people involved in CSE are the most difficult to engage and help and even like - they are very vulnerable and often very resistant to help

oh and I am not dismissing that you are correct - there was a huge issue with 'fear' of being racist - but I'm saying that wasn't the ONLY issue and the repost backs that up

it's just dangerous to see CSE at an 'Asian' issue - it isn't - look at Jimmy Saville and the BBC? all white males

It was also largely a question of class, they were working class girls being exploited, if they were middle class girls that social workers and cops could identify with their own children the situation would never have got out of hand like it did.

Ah, wilts I see. sorry, didn't really get what you meant earlier. Yes, I agree there was probably an element of politics about it.

Yes Sheba - good point - assumptions about the behaviour of girls from poorer areas is still a massive issue

I've lost count of the times other 'professionals' have made snotty comments about my clients group simply because of their post codes - lots of snarky pregnant and on benefits shite and 'oh I bet you don't like parking your car outside of your office' type crap

they were working class girls being exploited

Lots of them were from the so called care system. Yy ghostly one part but a large and gagging one.

But we are not (sadly) a secular society....

No we are not but our laws do try and promote a secular state, without trying to derail the thread, halal is fine, clearly label it so those who do object for whatever reason can abstain. We have spent years building animal welfare standards and whilst a majority of halal is stunned, even questioning the practice is being lumped under the islamaphobia banner (as seen in this thread), so by that reaction it is a slippery slope where religion is a no go with regards to critisim.

But if you think of the terrors in N Ireland just recently, and how much better it is now, doesn't that give you grounds for hope? Countries/regions tend to go through phases of warmongering, and then it settles down again. In fact, it wasn't that long ago in this country that women weren't allowed to vote, own property or ride horses "astride".

As for atomic weapons, theres a massive difference between having uranimum deposits and extracting enough for a nuclear reaction. I think its more likely there will be more terrorist attacks, maybe a chance of IS being sold a rogue atomic missile or uranium.

Perhaps we should declare war on IS. Its run by a load of drug-addled lunatics anyway. Neighbouring Muslim countries are suffering as well.