To think that Islamic state will cause world war 3

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I feel terrified for the future. I believe that the world will reach a point where there will be outright war to stop Islamic state. In the meantime Russia will annexe the Ukraine and much of Eastern Europe.

I am scared that Islamic state will get hold of atomic weapons. There are Muslim extremists with the intelligence to make a nuclear bomb. There are Muslim countries with uranium deposits.

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But we do know what they did to the white girls. And we do know that no one acted upon it as they didn't want to offend the muslim community or be suspected of being racist by their colleagues.

Islamic state could very well cause world war 3, but it wouldn't be direct, if you see what I mean.

It is far more likely that a state reaction to something IS does creates a wider conflict: say, IS kills another group of Egyptians, Egypt orders an large attack on IS positions, something goes wrong, the bombs end up being dropped on Cyprus (the Republic is an EU state) and wipes out a British base, this creates an enormous diplomatic incident ... even more so when it is discovered that the Egyptians were using Turkish guidance systems.

Then the narrative of a "mistake" comes to be about the next chapter in the Eastern Med energy wars and control over gas rights, which is one of the readings of IS action anyway (that they are a proxy force designed to eradicate Russian control over the European gas markets in favour of Qatar).

And it all becomes a really big mess that pulls in Russia, the EU, the US, the Chinese (who are already pissed off that the war in the Ukraine has screwed up their food planning programme) ...

... and, at this point, I go and live in the forest and change my name to Sparkly Unicorn Hazelnut Hat.

Fundamentalism and terrorism thrive when people are pushed into grinding poverty with no means of effecting change democratically, not because they are inherently violent.

Fascism developed to fill a void in Germany post Versailles and the crippling reparations bill.
Religion and ideology and power and control can always be measured by looking at who holds the money. Even the Crusades were fighting about the silk roads.

Who would have guessed we would be missing ole Saddam?

Egypt and Jordan will hopefully be the end of ISIS but what will rise from those ashes?

I can't see the nutters dusting themselves off, agreeing they were wrong and apologising.

A war may be good for certain parties, and we have to find somewhere to stick our returning troops but I have a dreadful niggle that it could be a civil war or EU at least.

• And we do know that no one acted upon it as they didn't want to offend the muslim community or be suspected of being racist by their colleagues.

Yes they were bound by political correctness and as a result they were allowed to continue abuse of the white girls but also - what damage done to the women we don't know about in their own community, it was MEN who were being protected. The women of both races were sold out.

I brought the discussion from one about IS to include the culture war here in the UK because I believe the latter to be the greater threat to us.

The threat comes not from immigrants, nor Muslims but from well-meaning liberals that think there is no limit to the number of people that these islands can hold, nor to the number of varied ways of living herein.

Nor do the liberals think there is an optimum rate with which such changes can be absorbed - indeed, from the way this process has been encouraged, one can only presume 'as fast as possible' to be their preferred tempo.

And in case anyone thought Rotherham was an isolated case (apart from Oxford, Rochdale, Birmingham etc etc.), read this jolly little tale from Sweden: www.gatestoneinstitute.org/5195/sweden-rape

No, American and British governments will cause ww3.

The nazis called themselves Christians but they weren't were they?
well if they went to church, read the bible and called themselves Christian, then I'd say they were Christian.
A crucial difference is that they didn't want a Christian superstate. They did what they did in the name of Germany. These people are doing it in the name of islam and want the world to be Islamic.
One was an ideology based on a country and it's leader, the current one is based on religion.

Adsy no there were Asian girls abused too
I didn't say there weren't

Afghanistan, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Somalia, Yemen, Nigeria (along with Niger, Cameroon, Chad), Pakistan, Mali, are either already in chaos or facing a very significant existential threat largely as a result of Islamist terrorism. It's not going away right now, it's spreading. Other countries with significant organised Islamist armed groups include countries such as the Philippines, Indonesia, Russia, Tunisia, Egypt, to name but a few. Then, we have Islamist terrorism in the west (including not jus EU, US but also Australia, for example), both highly organised and less organised. Yes - there's a very significant problem right now with this and it certainly has the strong potential to get a hell of a lot worse.

Other destabilising influences like the Ukraine conflict and the Iran question, the two Koreas and the 'new cold war' certainly won't help either.

it was MEN who were being protected social workers didn't sweep it under the carpet beacause it was men doing the abusing. they ignored it because it was Pakistani men.

A lot of people saying either the USA or US/UK will cause the next war but with out any context or reason as to why they feel that way.

adsy

And we do know that no one acted upon it as they didn't want to offend the muslim community or be suspected of being racist by their colleagues.

And the further point is that this was political - the predominantly white English girls were sacrificed because Labour feared for its hegemony in the Northern towns. The girls' chastity, self-respect and worth meant nothing to those that wanted Labour to remain in power.

wilts with the greatest respect WTF are you on??

Oh for fucks sake here we go again. I wish I was even surprised that a thread about Isis rapidly degenerated into a general Muslim bashing fest and discussion about halal meat.
You can try and wriggle out of the racism charge by saying that Muslims are of different races but I guess bigot will do just as well in that case.

mildly do you chorkle at hitler calling himself Christian?

Of course no true religious person committs violent acts.

Of course they portray themselves as Muslims as they hope to stir up division or their leaders do. They are too stupid.

Knitted agree my take on Rotherham is that the girls were victims of sexist attitudes of good girl/slag. Victims of the abusers and police attitudes.

but if your points where correct then nothing would EVER have been done about abuse in Rotherham - the fact that it HAS been exposed and IS being addressed is proof surely that there is no big PC Muslim friendly cover up

ditto OFSTED - and the staff, in some Birmingham schools

if the UK as 'pandering' to Islamic extremists then none of this would go un challenged.

Organised abuse is not just a problem for Muslims though - and thinking it is in dangerous

Reading with interest.

A lot of people saying either the USA or US/UK will cause the next war but with out any context or reason as to why they feel that way.

ArmyDad, I ve said that Europe and the USA have gone back to Keynsian type economics, good ol Keynes held that war is good for the economy therefore I believe they will pursue war rather than diplomatic channels to resolve conflict in that mistaken belief.

the girls where also 'victims' of some grey areas of legislation around consent and age difference in relationships

Lots of workers have been raising similar concerns for years but the powers that be didn't want to act (one case of mine did not involve anyone Asian) - the argument was that if the young person wouldn't make a complaint you couldn't act

this was enforced by authorities including the police and actually a lot of us wish washy liberal types challenged is again and again

now thankfully CSE is high on everyones agenda - sadly too late for many

slaggi I hope that comment about bigotry wasn't directed at me?

But there was a cover up. The social services admitted it, hence why the top brass have been removed. The report very adamantly states there was inaction due to political correctness and fear of offending the muslim community.
It came to light as the scale of abuse became so huge that there was no way of ignoring it any longer. it was public knowledge before the authorities would admit it was happening.

'Muslim' is not a race. Muslims come in all races of people.

ghosty yes think your point is right too.

ghostylovesheep Move along now, nothing to see here...

My point is that a tipping point was reached and it is amazing how far things had to go before this became public knowledge.

Does anyone seriously think that white gangs targeting black or minority ethnic (BME) would get away with so much for so long?

Again, the enduring danger comes not from the rapists, abusers, Muslim, immigrants, Asians, whatever - it comes from the Leftie political agenda that seeks to do away with the UK as a homogenous society and wants its balkanisation for political power (i.e. divide and rule between client groups based on 'identity').