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to move DD from her nice independent school where she has a scholarship because her brother didn't get offered one? (PART 2)

241 replies

middleschoolmuddle · 13/02/2015 09:45

...just in case there is something else I need to hear.

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ZeroFunDame · 15/02/2015 18:38

Why are you changing the subject?

APotNoodleandaTommy · 15/02/2015 18:42

Because making things up is loads of fun

MrsCampbellBlack · 15/02/2015 18:48

Well that may maths teachers isn't idea. But if you can't afford private then you just don't have a choice do you?

middleschoolmuddle · 15/02/2015 18:57

Apot I am not making it up. There is a recruitment crisis in some rural parts and heads are struggling to staff their core subjects. The head of this particular school was openly speaking about this on Radio 4 a month or so ago. Teach First are moving into these areas now so hopefully the situation will improve.

Should these things not affect me when I am seeking a school for my DC?

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TopazRocks · 15/02/2015 19:05

I imagine recruitment can be a problem in posh schools too. I am vaguely aware that some ads for posts in some of our local posh schools have been 'up' for a while. But I don't really know. However, it can be a problem in state schools, I do accept that.

Sometimes you haven't an option if that's what is happening. It has to be said though, parents who value education in the state sector do tend to shout loudly and often LEAs make some provision to improve things. When ds1 was doing gcse-equivalent our local school had no physics teachers and the LEA brought in 2 teachers from another school - after hours - to tutor the children. It wasn't ideal but ds got a good mark. And I am glad I was able to tutor him in German as there was a blip over German teachers too. The school has improved a lot since then as their management problems have been resolved. As MrsCB said, it's not an option for many families to go private even if they want to. And I suppose maybe OP is in that category too. Grin Like much in life, if you aren't 'privileged' you do often need sharp elbows.

APotNoodleandaTommy · 15/02/2015 19:12

OP, whether or not you are telling the truth now, you lost a significant proportion of the 'room' with your tales of 'yacht boy'

jeee · 15/02/2015 19:14

One of our local high schools (secondary modern) offers Latin... how is anyone going to know who are 'nice' any more? It's an absolute disgrace.

KnittedJimmyChoos · 15/02/2015 19:15

Oh yes * APotNoodleandaTommy she has lost lots of room, one thread hit 1000 and now we are on page 8 of part two.

Areyouforreal1 · 15/02/2015 19:31

OP changes the subject when not enough people are disagreeing with her, methinks.

middleschoolmuddle · 15/02/2015 19:36

Apot, I am not lying about any of it, what would be the point?

Many posters have been kind enough to share their stories with me and where appropriate I have shared these with DD and DS1. They are very close as siblings and I would hate any of this to come between them. They have spoken openly with each other about things and there appears to be no hard feelings.

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Areyouforreal1 · 15/02/2015 19:41

'Where appropriate' ? Do you mean when they reflect your opinion anyway?

landrover · 15/02/2015 19:44

This is getting really boring now!

landrover · 15/02/2015 19:46

The Op I feel is taking the p* out of us all!!!!

Hakluyt · 15/02/2015 19:47

You have still not said what it is that your child gets from her school that she would not get from any other school- all the things you have listed are either available in many if not most state schools or are trivial................

As I said, I can think of 10 things that our local private schools offer that my Ds's school doesn't. Why are you so reticent?

middleschoolmuddle · 15/02/2015 20:17

Did you miss the discussion on cultural capital Hak?

My DD has a life outside of school you know, also there are things that her school offers (like 'fives') that she's just not interested in.

In essence, she is happy where she is and why wouldn't she be? I have said before that she rates a selective environment.

Is it not an achievement to have obtained 2 scholarships? I dare say she is pleased with herself that she won these although it's not something we speak about much.

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middleschoolmuddle · 15/02/2015 20:41

Hak The music provision at DD's school is outstanding, there is not a school anywhere near here that can compete with it. I could not provide the opportunities for her to access such opportunities whilst at the same time providing her with opportunities that the school doesn't. Something would have to give.

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KnittedJimmyChoos · 15/02/2015 20:42

trivial = subjective.

Not trivial to me.

I am very sensitive to my surroundings, it affects my mood, however my relative brought up behind the iron curtain, surroundings don't bother her. Spending money on her home is a waste in her eyes.

Whats hugely important to me is trivial to her.

As I said, I can think of 10 things that our local private schools offer that my Ds's school doesn't. Why are you so reticent?

I don't think she has been reticent and would it matter if she described heaven itself? It wouldn't matter to you, you would shoot it all down, belittle what she said or, perhaps, simply ignore her....

middleschoolmuddle · 15/02/2015 20:47

It's the same with the sports provision. If we were to provide that outside of school there wouldn't be much time left to do the other things that she enjoys.

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LIZS · 15/02/2015 21:01

You clearly feel the need to self justify. If dd wasn't doing such a long journey after a long school day I think you'd be surprised how much time you'd rediscover for local sports clubs and county music including weekends. School activities do tend to be all consuming, especially if a scholarship is measured by participation.

chopinbabe · 15/02/2015 21:49

I have been following both your threads but as YB is now taking a leading role, I am going to put my penny worth in.

I think u are probably in or around a small town beginning with W. In that town, there is a man who was in at the beginning of a mobile phone operation ( not BT obviously) he goes yachting.

It is not to difficult then to work out exactly who you mean and I think you have been very thoughtless and indiscreet.

middleschoolmuddle · 15/02/2015 22:01

chopin, I am not in or around a small town beginning with W.

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chopinbabe · 15/02/2015 22:15

Well, it seems a very big coincidence that in East Anglia, there should be two boys, both with a father who has made a fortune by starting up a 'phone company and who both belong to families who enjoy yachting

To the real point though, you sound very shallow and your children sound as if they are going to grow up knowing the cost of everything and the values of nothing.

It really does sound as if you are Mrs Bouquet on speed.

Luckily, I don't believe some of what you say...a boy interested in applying for Eton, when he can't get into a minor private school and a 5 year old ( can't recall the exact age of your youngest) asking what he will earn as a palaeontologist. If, by the slimmest of threads, that is true, you should be ashamed not preening.

dougierose · 15/02/2015 22:15

coughs Of course not. I spy with my little eye somewhere beginning with I.

middleschoolmuddle · 15/02/2015 22:19

Who uses phrases like 'minor private school'? That sounds to me like a Mrs Bouquet think to say.

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Floggingmolly · 15/02/2015 22:24

Compared to Eton I'd imagine it's fairly insignificant...