...to ask MN-ers NOT to join in this glorification of domestic abuse? (contains spoilers)

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Fifty Shades of Shite

Can't believe the naivety and abuse deniers on here and amongst my friends.

DV campaigners such as Womens Aid & National Centre for Domestic Violence are urging people not to see this film.

It is not "just a piece of fun" it normalises abusive, controlling relationships as sexy, and it really bothers me so many women are colluding in supporting such crap that could hurt other more vulnerable women.

The BDSM community are frothing too as if done properly between 2 consenting adults with lots of planning, mutual respect and lots of affection and downtime after it can, for some, apparently be mindblowing. ( doesn't lift my skirt but respect those who do enjoy) this is not portrayed safely in this film.

It's an agree to disagree thread now

My inner goddess is bemused at how far off topic this is, and that it just keeps going and going and going...!

I'll agree to agree with that Pineapple.

My inner goddess has spent too long discussing my sex life and now wants to have one

For lots of things you can't get psychological help until you have committed the crime and it is incredibly expensive but if was on the NHS then by all means tell them that

That's a fabulous idea Pineapple!

No Maryz I was trying to explain that for me I don't consent at the point of penetration, that would be no fun for me It is the act of being forced which arouses me. I am bored of trying to justify my sex life though and it occurs to me I shouldn't bother.

Though I am going to hide this thread now. It has been taking up valuable spanking time and that just won't do.

Have fun sliced

I suppose due to my telepathy with my dh must be slightly more evolved than the person who can't remember what they said

Oh dear Maryz I never said you said that re short skirts.

My point was you said that for women to admit to rape fantasies makes it easier for rapists to normalise their actions.

That's your opinion and I totally disagree. Nothing excuses rape from a short skirt to being drunk.

pineapple post what you think I've forgotten I've said.

I simply don't believe that bdsm was simply common but unspoken about.

I disagree in my case. I know I definitely enjoyed the feeling of being tied up as young as 5. I dont think porn could have influenced that age 5?

You did say about chopping legs and compared thinking about these acts to thinking about bdsm
You don't see a difference between thinking and acting and say they are both wrong. And you compared consensual bdsm to whether it is okay to chop of legs or cannibalise people as long as it's consensual

copy and paste it.

*What about consensual cannibalism - is that ok?

And before you go all off on one, I'm not saying BDSM is the same as stabbing or cannibalism. I'm just pointing out what was said waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyy up thread, and what some posters are getting very irate about - just because something is consensual doesn't mean it's automatically ok.*

If the person consenting is SANE and free to give that consent then WHO CARES??

If someone wants to kill then eat eachother then who cares? What skin is that off your noes??? I don't like it, in fact i feel a bit sick just thinking about it, but if two people want to go out into the woods and do that then what is so wrong about that?

You'll never be able to think of an example that i'm going to turn around and say- oh no wait thats not ok. It might not be ok with me, but its ok for them.

Yeah who cares if people are eating other people

Hamiltoes, the guy in Germany was convicted of murder, even though his victim wanted to be killed and eaten. So it was considered to be illegal.

Its just one big huge circle. Hadn't we already said that preconsent isn't legal to specifically stop non-consented cases using preconsent as a defence?

In a logical world, if someone wanted to hit me and I wanted to be hit, that would be OK.

In this world, for reasons stated above, thats illegal. I'm still Ok with that wether its illegal or not.

I think here is where I too agree to disagree. Lovely debate though.

simply wanting something doesn't make it a good thing

What if one person wanted another person to chop their legs off? You're ok with that?

I don't think it's wrong to think it just illegal to do it but bdsm is not illegal

Nope you said it. The chopping off legs post was a personal favourite in loopiness.

maryz clutching hair here she bloody knows it's not the same as a rape but it's a fantasy. She knows that. Anyone sensible knows that but her dh was called a rapist