TO BE REALLY UPSET BY RUN IN WITH DD'S HEAD TEACHER?

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Can't stop shaking - I parked in the school car park and left DD2 in the car while I collected DD1 from school. Got back to the car to be met by the head teacher and given a right blasting: DD "could let the handbrake off and the car could roll back".

DD can't get the handbrake off AND the car was in gear so couldn't roll back in any case.

Just feel like shit - am I such a CRAP mother? DD2 is ill and I didn't want to get her out as it's bloody freezing at the mo.

Just want some rationalisation really; and feel maybe that the facts could have been established before I was judged.

Provided she was strapped in this is entirely normal behaviour - your DC was at far greater risk of being run over by a reversing car/tripping and breaking leg/ being mown down by a scooter than aliens/spontaneous combustion/starting car without keys

I have honestly never seen anyone leave a child alone in a car on the school run - but then we don't park in the school carpark. However if I needed someone to get my children and bring them to my car, I wouldn't be short of volunteers, and I have done this for others many times.

Then you are not following national and local guidelines Love and you need to review your practice

I think you'll find (1) I'm not you're love and (2) You don't need to alert parents to child protection concerns.

Are you actually attempting to say anyone who raises a CP concern has to inform the parents? You are hilarious.

Erm, your name is Love , Love.

You should not be referring to SS unless you have spoken to the parents first

In fact, your not hilarious, people like you just worry me.

Mrsdevere is right.

Good for your head teacher. Your dd was absolutely too young to be left alone. I once left dss aged 6 and 9 to pop into the shop for five minutes. They managed to get the handbrake off but were able to get it on again. The car rolled back slightly. They were petrified. I felt terrible.

Jesus wept... reading some absolute utter shite on here!

Every single parent getting looked at and considered a risk to their child...what planet is that poster living on...you think social services have the capacity to pick up every single parent case in the country? You have no idea!

The system has checks,it has balances and contrary to what you read in your scary daily fail .. social workers do not and cannot walk into people's houses and take their children unless granted an emergency protection order and attend with the police. To have your child ''forcibly placed for adoption'' requires a long drawn out court process with assessments from social workers, psychologist reports, education, health, special guardians...I could go on but I wont.

Reading these posts makes me realise that there are some people on mumsnet with the IQ of a gnat!

I'm with Love - CP concern to SS in respect of a parent has to be discussed with the parent first? National Guidance? This is totally ridiculous.

MrsD is right - once an initial assessment is instigated families know that social services are talking to the school/nursery/health visitor as they have gone out to see them first!

Mrs dv correct & speaking much sense

MrsD is correct. You are talking tosh. From, a social worker.

Can't remember if it's been updated but p.135 national guidance 2010 working together to safeguard children reiterates mrs d's information. So, yes, national guidance.

I haven't read the whole thread, but there was a similar situation at our school. A 3 year old managed to get out of their seat and released the handbrake, the car rolled back. Fortunately it just rolled into another car, but it all happened in a few minutes.

I know we've got off track here, but I was a single parent when I gave birth in 1998 and I was most definitely not referred to SS. My sister was in the same position in 2004 and again, no referral. I am flabbergasted at the poster who claims this was the norm.

It also works the other way too they don't make referrals at all when they should. My sister worked in a nursery and the manger there was always avoiding making necessary referrals even when kids were disclosing witnessing dreadful domestic abuse between their parents. In situations like this is it fair enough for staff to go straight to SS.

Of course the above is best practice but I was specifically referring to CP cases where there is actual risk of significant harm to the child. Of course parents wouldn't be automatically informed of assessment at this stage. You said people should not be referring to SS unless parents are informed so I am simply saying that is not always the case if there is a CP element. In this OP, HT has made her own assessment and discussed directly with parent as you would expect. Good practice, job done.

The woman who posted was either lying about the referrals to social services (and she posted a load of other nonsense further up the thread) .. or the health visitor had concerns about her and didn't have the balls to say it so gave her a lame excuse. Its that simple because in reality that does not and never has happened.