to think giving bus passes and winter fuel payment to JSA cliaments by taking it away from wealthy pensioners is not "punishing pensioners"

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I live in a very marginal constituency, lib dem won by narrow margin.

Anyway I wrote a long letter to all the parties I'm thinking of voting for.

Mostly they ignored the points I raised and pointed to useless policys like help to buy (that just exasperates the problem).

However the Tory guy said re bus passes and winter fuel payments he called it "punishing pensioners" to not give them universally.

The rest of the letter was bland crap, but this point really annoyed me. When I was on JSA luckily I had support from my family to get through, but I really needed them and it was very grating when I was often spending more than I got on JSA On buses to hear pensioners talking about their cruises or extensions.

Maybe you have somebody to vote for.

dhdjdbrjrkbr I don't mind you disagreeing with me. In fact I am glad, as if you agreed with me I would be seriously worried.
Your argument , that if the rich pensioners gave up their Freebies then the JS would benefit is naive. It is too simplistic.
I am not wholly blaming the politicians because I am quite sure that this country is not entirely run by them. I think we have quite a lot of unelected people in this country with all their sticky little grasping fingers in our pie. A pie that should belong to the majority of us, not a privileged minority.

Don't you remember the fairly recent MP expenses scandal. Almost every MP from every party was involved. Imagine how the JS could have benefitted from them being honest.
What about Sophie Wessex and Prince Andrew's wife, using their positions to benefit their families.
What about The Civil list ? I have paid into it all my working life, to support a family that is rich beyond your wildest dreams. It is outrageous. Even now I am retired I am still paying into it, as my pension is taxed.

You would be better putting forward a proposal that the Queen and Prince Charles etc. gave up some of their tax free dosh to help the Job Seekers. They probably have more cash stashed away than all the Pensioners freebies, rich or poor. Do you think they would be willing to give anything up? I bet you one Corgi that they wouldn't.

Woolly, don't bother! OP has read all of that before. Myself and many of the other posters here have supplied such information and points of view on one of her previous pensioner bashing threads - all it achieved was time wasted and, erm, this thread

Agreed Nomama-OP doesn't listen to sensible arguments-although Woolly is absolutely correct. I'm giving up now.

I'm sure OP will be back with another name and an old people hating thread or two soon.

I just perused a newspaper, quick breakfast, free paper, no idea which... and the letters page was full of people shouting about a previous letter that must have had a pop at boomers/pensioners.

There was one point made that made me stop and smile: a lady had been surprised to find out that her pension was viewed (by a certain hostile sector of society) as a benefit. So she applied for a grant that was available to those on benefits... guess what? No, no madam, that's a pension that is, not a benefit!

As for the boomers being the spoiled generation, that is revisionism of the worst kind. Carried out by a generation that has so much more 'stuff' to be dependent upon and which sees all sorts of vaguely irrelevant things as essential yet can't be arsed to become politicised in order to have any control over its own life!

On a previous thread I was told, apparently in all sincerity, that it is impossible to become politically active these days! I could hear Pankhursts, Dawsons and Dunlops turning in their graves...