to wish that people would keep their fecking filthy dogs to themselves?

[BubbleGirl01]

Lots of people on the school run (mainly mothers), in my area, take their dogs with them for some unfathomable reason. Most mornings DS3 and I have to dodge the fucking things as the owner has them on a long lead and they block the path with them and allow them to walk up to people.

This morning we had one pig ignorant woman let her dog almost trip DS over by the dog walking at his heels.

Another woman standing on the path talking to someone over the road, dog lead blocking the whole path, lets her dog jump up at my shopping bags, I have to ask her to move her dog.

Then further up, massive dog doing a big stinking shit (FFS who wants to smell that first thing in the morning in the street) dog lead again blocking the whole path, while woman chattering away on her phone, dog then comes to sniff at my bags.

ABU to say to people 'keep your filthy animal to yourself' and kick the next one who invades into my personal space.

Yes, thought out as in "we can walk him after the school run", I imagine.

I don't have a dog.

For the school run (and I've been flamed for this before), I leave DD at the park before the school in the morning so I can give our puppy a longer walk home. In the afternoon, we go along early, stand on the grass verge away from the path and wait until pretty much everyone has left before heading home through the park/woods so it's not overly busy. It's one of the best decisions I made with the puppy. The children have been lovely and always ask if they can pet him. The reason he no longer jumps on children is because I told them that yes, they can pet him but only if he is not jumping. I told them to stand like statues and not look at him until he was down. He stopped jumping on children within a couple of weeks of doing the school run.

I think some non dog owners don't appreciate just how long it can take to train a puppy. You get cries of, "The dog needs to be trained! The dog needs to be trained!" but what many don't seem to realise is that it doesn't happen overnight and some people have little tolerance for those in training. You spend months training a new puppy and then just when you think they've got it, adolescence hits and lots of goes right out the window.

Unfortunately, puppies need real life situations where they can learn. You do need to keep them controlled in these situations, but they aren't little robots and you will make mistakes. We've been going to weekly puppy training classes since September and whilst they help to teach you techniques they are still artificial environments and you need to practice in the real world.

On all these types of threads the dog haterz come across as frothy loons. Says a lot.

I don't hate dogs but the "haterz" are not the ones coming across as frothy loons here. I'm certainly beginning to dislike some dog owners.

It may not be illegal to walk dogs to school but HTs can and do ban parents from leaving them tied up on the fence or taking them onto the grounds.

Some DCs are very allergic to dogs, it's very inconsiderate to take them on the school run unless you are going to drop your DC off and leave straight away.

You'd not like the nursery my kids went to then, OP, where a large dog was brought right through the cloakrooms and into the actual nursery room with it's owner as she dropped her child off each day... (owner was buddies with Head).

Or the owners who take their dogs into the Primary playground each day to wait for their Y1's to come out?

As a current dog sitter, I would not allow the dog to approach a child or block a pavement. If she toilets on the path I scoop and bag having at least attempted to get her to the kerb in time.

She approached a person with learning difficulties this morning (by approached I mean stopped and stared and started to strain towards him). I pulled her on as I could see he was disquieted.

My dog, my responsibility for it not to bother others.

No one has the right to kick a dog, unless in self defence.

Who has mentioned leaving them at the school gates?? And ht can ask but they can't ban dogs on a public path.

TBH, I slightly meant the double entendre tiggy saw about the bulge in the pocket.

But if you want the honest truth, the evidence of bad dog ownership is obviously covering the pavement. It is absolutely disgusting and filthy.

So I DON'T see any evidence whatsoever of good dog ownership. I only see inconsiderate people with dirty, out of control mutts that are allowed to defile the local area and normal people / non-dog owners are apparently not allowed to get upset about this. And I live in a naice, MC area where the general view is that dog owners are more likely to be "responsible".

I stand by the comment that dogs smell as well. Just because you no longer notice it doesn't mean they don't.

Primal I have actually stopped taking my dog for a walk and anything near school start/finish time as children harass him, try and pull his tail, stroke him roughly etc while their parents just look on! He's so placid (a beagle) that he just stands and lets them do it but it's not fair on him. It's the children that need training around here, not the dogs.

Cats don't smell so how can you say ALL dogs do? An I am a normal person. Owning a dog doesn't change that fact. Shock horror I dog shit on pavements pisses me off as well.

*the dog shit

AllThe of course you don't see the evidence of people picking up their dog's mess, as by definition there isn't any evidence. Doesn't mean people don't do it.

In that minuscule minority the HT would be entitled to ban dogs from the school yard. Not from walking the dogs to school though.

1 in 10 DCs have asthma - not a miniscule minority and dog allergies are common among asthmatics. It's dogs hanging around the gates that is a problem to those children, either tethered or held by owners. As I said, drop the child and carry on walking the dog - no problem. Hanging around the gate with a dog is potentially a very big problem.

Why would anyone want to put a child's health at risk?

When I was at school (rural New England), my second grade teacher brought her Old English Sheepdog to class every day. He snoozed at the back off he classroom and we got to play with him during breaktime. My high school music teacher had a toy poodle who sat in his office every day and came out to greet each new class.

I sometimes wonder whether my old school would still allow that today.

Oh for gods sake mythical... Please tell me you are not being serious?

From a dog OUTSIDE that you can steer clear from. Hysterical.

And if that dog jumps up at the child or brushes against it, transferring hair? Did you not see the earlier post from someone whose son went into anaphylaxis?

And you think it's funny?

It's the dog owner's job to keep it away from people - they never know who may be allergic.

I stand by the comment that dogs smell as well. Just because you no longer notice it doesn't mean they don't.
Well yes have to agree with you there AllThePrettySeahorses having said that some people smell too...but that's life!

Just back from a lovely walk in the countryside (picked up his poo!) and didn't see a sole so luckily we haven't offended anyone on our walk today!
I am though genuinely sorry for anyone who feels harassed by other peoples dogs ...that really isn't on. I also totally agree that everyone should pick up after their dogs and the people who don't give others a very bad name.
Perhaps I'm just lucky but where I live it's never full of streets full of dog poo, in fact I can't remember when I did see any round here. However I fully appreciate that in some places it's a real problem.

My little old dog is everything to me but I understand others who aren't fans of them...just don't go kicking them hey?

Mythical do these children have to sit in a classroom by themselves then?

Or do the smelly children whose parents inflict dogs on them have to sit on their own incase a dog hair falls off their clothes?

DC1 is very allergic to cats and he had to sit well away from DCs who had cats at home. He was also allergic to hamsters and the class hamster had to go.

He's an adult now but still can't go into houses where cats live without having an attack.

I presume teachers still sit allergic DCs well away from animal owning DCs whose clothes are not laundered regularly.

confused you really think that anaphylaxis is something to be sneered at?

My vet told me that some dog owners are selfish to the point of stupidity. I can see he's right.

Now you just sound like a petulant child.