To be late for parents evening

[42bunnytails]

DD2 (Y9) has made an appointment with her German teacher.

She hates him, she's absolutely useless at German, gets put in detention and has made no progress in three years.

She's a straight A student at everything else

She's done it purely to see if I can keep a straight face, when she knows I think he's an idiot too.

It's not fair, she knows I had a fit of the giggles watching one of her class just wander off mid bollocking, leaving her parents to hear the end of it.

To make it worse you can see the French teacher trying not to giggle too

benfoldsfive I feel for your daughter. So many pupils found it fun just to use MFL lessons as an opportunity to disrupt, hence the policing amidst complaints of "I'm never gonna go to France anyway" meaning motivated pupils like your daughter have their opportunity to learn restricted.
Drama was my second subject and was ok if pupils had chosen it at GCSE but a positive nightmare with some classes St key stage 3.
I quite liked teaching PSHE but a lot of teachers don't have the skills and knowledge to do it and pupils again treat it as a doss lesson. I think aspects such as drugs and sexual health should be outsourced to be honest which would benefit everyone.
However none of this justifies the OP and her attitude. She has some growing up to do let alone her daughter.

It's ridiculous no one has realised the immersive learning curriculum they use in Y7 totally confussed DCs who have never done German and who's parents haven't done any either. Welsh, French and Latin aren't much help when faced with HW totally in German.

Sorry, but I really don't get your point. It is German, not Japanese. It is a European language which has similarities with other European languages. It is obviously not going to be identical to French as all languages have their own grammar, structure, vocab. You can draw on knowledge of one to help learn another.

So because your daughter wasn't allowed to give up German after Year 7 you condone her attitude? Why was she receiving detentions if she was do polite and respectful?
Why do you think behaving like a stroppy child is preferable to taking your concerns through the proper channels?
How do you know what the grounds for capability are?

The teacher in question isn't bad enough to be put on capability

This is confidential information, OP. How did you get hold of it?

I'm with bitoutofpratice following your latest post.

Good morning all
Just a reminder that if there's anything you think we should look at, please don't speculate on the thread, drop us a quick report - it takes but moments
Thanks ever so

Blimey that was quick!

Great post ShowMeTheWonder

Doesn't quite account for your intention to behave like an arse at parents' evening.

You now seem to be blaming the school's systems for your dissatisfaction.
Still not sure how or why you know info about comparative detentions which, by your account are available to tutors and SLT. If I was a teacher at that school I'd take them to the union for revealing such stats

You "know" he's not bad enough to be put on capability. How? And if you know so much, why haven't you done anything?

Oh….. "complaining is futile". Have you done it? what did you do? what where the results?

If I had as much reason as you dripfeed imply, I'd have been on to my MP before the end of three years.

So much easier to post provocatively and then attempt to defend your views by vague accusations that actually only make you appear more of a tit than you did in your OP.

From your last post op it's clear that it's all awful and there's nothing you can do about it except go to parents evening and behave badly.

I'd go with that plan

People with blank spots for languages do not become fluent in their native language.

And sorry, I can't believe that a year 7 homework sheet is that difficult, even if it's entirely in German, especially with a parent fluent in English (Germanic language) who did O'level French and Latin (language with cases, which aren't even taught until GCSE/A-level German) and a child who is an A-student for her other subjects.

I rather like your second post OP!

Teacher sounds awful.

I sense that you have got to the laughing rather than crying stage of frustration, as you frankly have neither the time nor energy to spend on a subject which your dd has tried to do, but instead of acknowledgement and encouragment gets detentions and more baffling work. That must be really demotivating for your DD and I'm not surprised she's just given up. Even worse that the school won't do anything.

Unfortunately your first post put everybodys backs up. Had you come on and siad WIBU not to bother seeing this teacher at parents' evening when xyz you would have got more support.

As someone who also struggled with German partly due to a rubbish teacher, your DD has my sympathy. Even with very capable pupils you still have to make a subject doable by pitching it at the right levels.

Sounds like you both need to grow up.

I also want to know how the OP has access to comparative detention data and information regarding grounds for capability in terms of this teacher's performance .

redexpat, the OP didn't say she would be laughing at parents' evening because of frustration.

She said she would be laughing because she can't keep a straight face as both she and her DD believe the teacher to be an "idiot".

She has also admitted giggling when another student walked off while the teacher was still talking to them.

That's not frustration, that's just twattish behaviour.

Op if German is not for your dd in these circumstances then fair enough, but I can't see any justification for setting out to deliberately ridicule the teacher and to encourage that behaviour in your dd. Your frustration does not justify that.

?

I'm amazed OP lets her DD behave so badly. I had a terrible German teacher at the same stage (was native and could never explain beyond "It just is" or "you just do" which isn't at all helpful) but I was still expected to engage appropriately.

What will DD do if she gets a dickhead boss in future? Feed back to management whilst doing her best, or piss about? There's a life lesson available here, if OP chooses to teach it.

@BitOutOfPractice

Blimey that was quick!

Thank you

In order for the OP to teach that life lesson she'd need to reevaluate her own mindset first.

TheOnlyOliviaMumsnet it wasn't necessarily a compliment!

queen

I think you are right!! Luckily my daughter who is very confident (and I think that's absolutely key for MFL) loves her German...not a cat in hells chance of getting into UCL mind

My incredibly well behaved and polite children have had a number of detentions, there are still teachers out there who believe in full class detentions unfortunately

OP, this is so wrong.
Firstly, how can you allow your child and yourself to behave like this.
Secondly, what about the poor person who would welcome the time with the teacher? Somebody who is serious about the subject, not a time waster.
There is often too little time to spend with the teacher anyway, without you pissing about.
How you raise your dd is up to you.

If the teacher got poor results year after year the teacher wouldn't be allowed to teach... They have performance management you know!

Pin a teacher if a parent was late I'd probably go home we don't wait around you sound a delight