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To be late for parents evening

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42bunnytails · 12/01/2015 23:11

DD2 (Y9) has made an appointment with her German teacher.

She hates him, she's absolutely useless at German, gets put in detention and has made no progress in three years.

She's a straight A student at everything else

She's done it purely to see if I can keep a straight face, when she knows I think he's an idiot too.

It's not fair, she knows I had a fit of the giggles watching one of her class just wander off mid bollocking, leaving her parents to hear the end of it.

To make it worse you can see the French teacher trying not to giggle too

OP posts:
ilovesooty · 13/01/2015 11:09

Rufus agreed about the unfairness of full class detention.
I don't however believe for one moment that the OP 's daughter is as polite and respectful as she claims. Her own attitude and behaviour doesn't encourage it and evidence in her other posts suggests otherwise.

Aherdofmims · 13/01/2015 11:11

is she not able to just drop this subject if she doesn't like it? Seems a waste of time to me if this is how you/she feel about it.

SuburbanRhonda · 13/01/2015 11:11

So, OP, got the answer you wanted?

Wink
ilovesooty · 13/01/2015 11:11

Of course maddy one can only go home if it's the last parent who's late. The OP could well be putting the whole appointment schedule out in her puerile attempt to make some kind of point.

SuburbanRhonda · 13/01/2015 11:12

aherd

Are you the German teacher? Grin

ilovesooty · 13/01/2015 11:24

Aherd she apparently isn't allowed to drop it which is what the OP is using to justify her and her daughter's appalling behaviour and attitude.
She could be taking her concerns up with the school at a higher level but chooses not to, preferring to piss around instead.

RufusTheReindeer · 13/01/2015 11:26

Fair enough ilove you've obviously seen more of the OPs attitude elsewhere Smile

maddy68 · 13/01/2015 11:30

I'm a teacher who clearly can't type!

42bunnytails1 · 13/01/2015 11:54

I don't condone DD2 misbehaving, but I'm not going to start a massive row about one subject with a very poor teacher. Any teen parent knows to pick their battles.

I can only assume those posters who think it's easy to get teachers put on competency are teachers or teachers spouses. From the inside of the teaching profession, in the age of Ofsted, it is scary and sometimes very unfair.

However, from the outside some teachers do seem to have jobs for life.

Trying to get one of these out of post when the school was in SM, had no permanent HT and the lovely head of MFL had bailed out half way through a two year contract, would have been whistling in the wind.

My frustration is that non of the above actually matter, as I think MFL teachers are 100% safe so long as the SLT do not receive any reports of actual grievous bodily harm.

PS. Not one word I have written here is untrue.

But still someone is reporting me for trolling.

I am not and never have been a troll or lied on MN, ever!

Sometimes I am flippant and try to make light of things. Something that for years you could do here, then suddenly all the fun people seemed to get banned and MN is now pretty shit.

"So long and thanks for all the fish"

FightOrFlight · 13/01/2015 11:56

Don't let the door hit you on the arse on your way out waves enthusiastically

MiaowTheCat · 13/01/2015 11:57

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SuburbanRhonda · 13/01/2015 12:10

Still convinced you're right OP? So right you had to name change?

Marshy · 13/01/2015 12:32

Op your post wasn't flippant or fun. It was nasty, talking about gifiling at the teacher and that is why you've has the responses you've had. That's not a fair way to treat people.

I hope you are reconsidering your approach at parents evening as a result of the discussion here but given your flounce upthread, i'm guessing probably not.

Marshy · 13/01/2015 12:32

Giggling, obvs

ilovesooty · 13/01/2015 13:16

Have you name changed because you've been banned?
FWIW I don't think you were trolling. I just think your opinions are reprehensible, your attitude to education appalling and I think your comments show exactly why your daughter behaves as she does with such a poor role model.
You thought your thread was funny and you're stropping because people didn't agree with you. Poor judgement in the first place really but unsurprising given your overall attitude demonstrated in your posts.

ilovesooty · 13/01/2015 13:19

Oh and that's a disgraceful slur on MFL teachers and on headteachers. Their performance is managed just as the performance of all other teachers is.

ShowMeTheWonder · 13/01/2015 13:23

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ilovesooty · 13/01/2015 13:54

Of course it's easy to put teachers on capability now. It can be concluded in a matter if weeks and it can be accomplished even if the teacher has years of good observations previously. No way will schools hang onto teachers who affect targets. The OP is ignorant, not amusing.

SauvignonBlanche · 13/01/2015 14:06

DD has a teacher like this, (history) they appear to loath each other. She made DD cry at the Year 8 parents evening, DH said it was vile.

DD now hates history and can't wait to drop it, she loves Geography, fortunately.

Consequently I shan't be wasting my time or the teacher's by making an appointment to see her at this years Parents evening.

ilovesooty · 13/01/2015 14:10

Sauvignon that sounds horrible. Even if your daughter isn't working well for her reducing her to tears in public isn't on.
However you, unlike the OP, aren't attempting to waste people's time by making a juvenile point..

Flossyfloof · 13/01/2015 14:29

I am a languages teacher. If I had my time again I would never have chosen to teach languages. The kids find it hard, the parents don't always respect the hard work that goes into preparation for lessons and there is a level of anxiety in learning a language that I don't believe is present in learning other subjects. (Have I understood the original concept, have I chosen the right words, am I saying it right, am I spelling it correctly, etc etc). You are also up against the sense that learning a language is irrelevant (everyone speaks English anyway, we are never going to Germany on holiday, etc etc). As an accomplished linguist I didn't realise this until I started teaching and, young in service, took part in a study which looked at anxiety in language learning.
I think it is a source of pride with some people that they can't do languages (although you hear people saying this about Maths as well).
MFL teachers are often teaching kids who can't speak their own languages but MFL's contribution to literacy is rarely acknowledged.
OP, perhaps this teacher is a bad one, I think your daughter and you are both behaving badly though and this won't help the situation. If you are genuinely concerned make the appointment and go and ask what you can do to support your daughter's learning. You are not doing so at the moment,
BTW, as a language teacher you never expect parents to help as you can never assume that they have any knowledge of the language.
Sorry - have I gone on? We do!

applejack18 · 13/01/2015 14:46

Deswegen arbeite ich nicht mehr in einer Schule. Stattdessen gebe ich Privatunterricht. Weniger Stress und mehr Geld.
Simples!

foolonthehill · 13/01/2015 14:50

I look forward to the day your daughter decides another subject is "a waste of time", "not her thing", "the teacher is rubbish"...may be it will be maths or English? What will you be doing then?

model it now...
respect other people and teach your children respect,
work hard even when you find it difficult and do the best you can and expect the same of your children,......then....
when she joins the working world she will know how to deal with bosses who are under-performing and obstructive/goading and how to do the parts of her job that she finds dull/irrelevant.

education is not just about grades and exams......

ilovesooty · 13/01/2015 15:12

fool well said.
Flossy excellent confirmation of the challenges of MFL teaching.

42bunnytails1 · 13/01/2015 15:36

Peeks round door.
At no point did I say DD2 is allowed to behave badly. I'm just not going to tear my hair out if she misses the odd HW.

I think her Cohort have calmed the chattering down a bit. I've certainly told her that silliness isn't sensible.

She was an utter angle at primary, to the degree that parents evenings were embarrassing. (She saved her rougher edges for home).

She has let her hair down a little at senior school and is now settling back to a place she can sustain.

She wants to teach and she will be a good teacher because she will reflect on her teaching and care about her students.