To be late for parents evening

[42bunnytails]

DD2 (Y9) has made an appointment with her German teacher.

She hates him, she's absolutely useless at German, gets put in detention and has made no progress in three years.

She's a straight A student at everything else

She's done it purely to see if I can keep a straight face, when she knows I think he's an idiot too.

It's not fair, she knows I had a fit of the giggles watching one of her class just wander off mid bollocking, leaving her parents to hear the end of it.

To make it worse you can see the French teacher trying not to giggle too

You described her as "head in the clouds" actually - my mistake

I don't see why it's poor form to provide evidence of the person and parent you are if it's pertinent to this thread. I didn't "link the threads" either in terms of stating where your other comment could be found. Your elder daughter may not be the subject of this thread but your attitude to collective responsibility in terms of her behaviour is relevant. You show no understanding of the effects, worry and inconvenience for everyone if your daughter fails to comply with safety instructions on trips.
It all shows why your attitude and modelling are so poor and your insistence on being some kind of cool rebel who's seemingly doesn't see the need for anyone including you or your daughters to have any respect for authority.
You still haven't said why you name changed.

She is a complicated child, but not the subject of this thread .

Isn't the subject of this thread the amount of responsiblity you expect everyone else to take for your children while you get to be all kewl and funky and giggly unlike those squares who listen to the (teacher) Man?

Teaching your children to behave appropriately in school,is a bit of a parenting basic, surely, 42bunnytails? Have you told your dd that she must stay with her group on school trips? Have you told your younger dd that she should do her homework - or at least make an attempt at it - and behave well in class?

Or are you too busy being all kewl, funky and giggly, as Apocalypse suggests?

I sometimes thought while I was teaching that there was something a bit desperate and insecure about these parents who didn't dare to challenge their children to promote effective modelling.

Oh - and 'she's a complicated child' sounds like indulgent-parent-speak for 'my child is too special to obey the rules, and I don't care if her behaviour causes stress and worry and inconvenience to everyone else on the school trip'.

She takes a pride in the "keep, funky and giggly" stuff. There's plenty more evidence of her active collusion with her daughters in piss taking over school expectations. If you search both usernames it's there. Apparently though providing more actual examples of what she says would be Poor form

Don't commit your opinions and attitude to to writing if you're going to wriggle when you're reminded if them later.

Yes I think "complicated child" means "too special to conform to school procedures and sod everyone else" too

Nice stealth boast there, victorine, but I'm not sure you can really take credit for your son getting into Oxford.

I can see the OP offering a similar stealth boast in few years' time as evidence of the effectiveness of the giggly collusion in piss taking and refusal to role model effectively.

I repeat DD1 is irrelevant, school have never complained about her behaviour on a trip. I know what happens because she talks to me!

School have never been anything, but helpful and supportive with DD1. With their help, DD1's hard work and her peer group growing up, DD1 has friends and is a very happy sixth former.

Anyhow back to my totally NT very sociable German hating DD2.

Thinking hard about it I think I realise why she found immersive German so hard.

She likes to feel in control, she doesn't like to jump in and risk making a fool of herself. I assume that in immersive teaching you are meant to relax, have a go and not be expected to get it perfect first time.

She has spent her whole life hating art for exactly the same reason, she can't just let go and try ideas, it has to be exactly as it is in her head first time.

Despite this she is considering art as her reserve GCSE.

Why because she has a brilliant art teacher, who doesn't just complain she's lazy and give her detention if she's talking. No her art teacher speaks to her, finds out what she's interested in and encourages her.

Her art teacher does what good teachers do, they support pupils so they can become independent learners.

Her German teacher is not a good teacher, he does not reflect on his pupils learning or his own teaching. He didn't realise DD1 really hadn't twigged the absolute basics and missed totally that that meant she wasn't going to risk looking a fool by trying.

DD2 is far too sensible, far to respectful of authority and far to aware of how she looks to others to be very badly behaved ever, but German frustrates even her to the point where yes, she giggles and is silly. Sometimes if you don't laugh you cry or lose your temper and speak your mind.

Neither is DD2's style. Me yes I join in the odd inappropriate giggle, else I would get very very cross.

As I have said up tread getting very very cross is pointless because school isn't going to improve the situation.

And I am going to have to leave this here as my internet has died and my rural 3G fades and loses long posts.

Talking out of turn despite warnings is worth a detention.

Oh dear. Still no willingness to accept responsibility. And your attitude to your elder daughter's non conforming with school trip expectations is absolutely relevant whether or not school have complained to you.

As for your assertion that your younger daughter is far too sensible, far too respectful of authority I think that's bollocks as on previous threads you've demonstrated otherwise. If she really had that respect she wouldn't have arranged the piss taking appointment.

Oh you're going. Again.

He doesn't reflect on his pupil's learning or his own teaching

Again, especially as you didn't answer last time, how can you possibly claim to know this?

She can't know it.
And she's hardly going to get the Effective Reflector of the day award herself.

'I'm not a regular mom, ok? I'm a cool mom'

42bunnytails - if YOU know that YOUR dd is misbehaving on school trips (and wandering off from her group is misbehaving), then it doesn't matter that the school have not complained - YOU should be doing something about it!

If my child told me (boasted to me/giggled to me) that they were wandering off on school trips, I WOULD be getting angry - with them - and I would me making sure they never did it again.

Probably too old-school, uncool and no-fun for you and your complicated child, though...

And a child who respected authority would at least try to do their homework, and wouldn't be getting repeated detentions in school - even in only one subject.

As someone who works with parents every day in school, give me an "old school, uncool" mum any day of the week!

You are being quite ridiculous, OP.

Why because she has a brilliant art teacher, who doesn't just complain she's lazy and give her detention if she's talking. No her art teacher speaks to her, finds out what she's interested in and encourages her.

So basically you think that, to be a fantastic teacher, your man should stop German being all German (as she's not down with that) but make it something she does like and not give her detention for talking.

You should tell him after wasting his evening. He could learn a lot.

Your daughter will frequently encounter people, as she grows up, who have neither the time nor the inclination to handle her with the kid clothes you and she seem to regard as her due. Let's hope that she develops a more mature attitude before that happens, and that you can follow her in that.

Can you imagine it? This pupil hoes to work. She finds the tasks difficult to learn and not very interesting. She chats and let's get work rate slop.
Cool mother who's never bothered to role model for her and has facilitated her piss taking thinks it's unfair. Colludes with her about the unfairness. Is then astonished when oh so clever little precious is sacked.

chats and lets her work rate slide