To be late for parents evening

[42bunnytails]

DD2 (Y9) has made an appointment with her German teacher.

She hates him, she's absolutely useless at German, gets put in detention and has made no progress in three years.

She's a straight A student at everything else

She's done it purely to see if I can keep a straight face, when she knows I think he's an idiot too.

It's not fair, she knows I had a fit of the giggles watching one of her class just wander off mid bollocking, leaving her parents to hear the end of it.

To make it worse you can see the French teacher trying not to giggle too

Nimms lecht!!!!

I studied French (in Canada, until Y9, this is mandatory), as well as German and Latin. My only regret is not continuing to use German and French, as I have lost so much of it.

However, I am trying again, at the ripe old age of mumble, mumble .

I am even thinking of trying to learn one of the Celtic languages, too.

Yes granny as you say that schedule is common for teachers at parents' evening.

Teachers can do without stupid self centred woman child parents thinking it's fine to collude with their teenagers in taking the piss.
The OP of course can't behave like a functioning adult, hold her hands up and acknowledge how unpleasant her attitude is.

One of the important lessons I think I managed to teach my children, who are now both successful grown ups is that respect for authority is not a given and although it should be assumed in the early stages overall it must be earned. Having spent my teenaged years being taught by a few very poor teachers that my parents wouldn't challenge because they felt inhibited I have never thought that what teacher says goes. OP YANBU you are teaching your child a very important lesson.

That might be the case if the OP was actually dealing with the situation. She isn't. She is behaving like a four year old and encouraging her daughter to do the same.
Even with 'rubbish' teaching I would expect a straight A student to make progress in any subject. I suspect there is information we are not being given here.

So, Victorine did you take concerns about teaching to the school using the normal channels or did you collude with your teenagers to rip the piss out of teachers and waste their time?
What lesson is she teaching her children? That mum will collude with them in giggling piss taking and support them in making minimal effort in subjects they find a bit hard?
Always interesting when support suddenly appears after several hundred posts.

Victorine, did you also teach your children that it is encumbent on them to earn people's respect back? Or did it just work one way for you?

Apologies for my last comment Victorine

I see you've been around for some time.

You are perfectly correct in saying that poor teaching needs to be challenged. Do you really think it's a valuable lesson to children to use the juvenile methods the OP is describing or do you accept that she should take her concerns through formal channels? Do you think it's fine to take some sort of pride in her daughter's detentions and not care whether her behaviour wastes the time of the teacher and of other pupils?

And what's the betting that the OP having refused to acknowledge the prevailing response to her childish behaviour will appear to thank Victorine for her support.

Of course, the grown-up thing to do would be to ring and cancel the appointment.

SDTG of course it would. It would mean the teacher's time isn't wasted.

But that would mean the OP admitting she's wrong and losing face with her daughter. She hasn't the guts apparently to cope with either of those things.

Her posts over different forums reek of contempt for any authority, pride in being a rebel and lack of consideration for teachers. If you have a look (under both user names) it explains a lot.
You almost have to feel sorry for someone reaching her age with so few functioning adult life skills.

I thought so BitOutOfPractice but a search indicates otherwise.

You are spot-on, I think, ilovesooty.

I note also that 42bunnytails still hasn't answered my question about whether all the detentions her dd has had, have been for non-completion of homework, and if her dd truly is a 'little angle (sic)' in class.

I work! I can only Mumsnet in my Lunchbreak! Yes, I'd always take serious concerns about teaching to the school - for example when correct syllabus not taught for an AS History paper. I'm afraid when DS 1 had an eccentric alternative type oddball for a teacher for one less important subject ( he got into Oxford so I did something right!) I was not averse to taking the piss a bit at parents evenings. I just find the whole pseudo seriousness of this sort of thing brings out the juvenile idiot in me ( and long may it continue!)

Oh she won't SDTG That would demand some functioning adult skills.

Her daughters evidently aren't encouraged to have any consideration for peers or teachers. She's quite blasé about it. Apparently according to a recent thread her "air headed" elder daughter has never managed to conform to the expectation to stay in small groups on school trips to ensure everyone's safety but that's fine as "the school hasn't lost her yet". No understanding of the worry or inconvenience to others. This latest incident is hardly surprising is up?

It not up

Think the general message is clear though. This is a selfish, irresponsible attitude demonstrated by a parent who facilitates these qualities in her children.

OK - if she is dyslexic, I must have missed that bit, and I apologise unreservedly. But it doesn't address the meat of my question - does her dd only get detentions for uncompleted homework in German, or is she actually not behaving perfectly in class - I suspect the latter.

Ilovesooty - I hadn't seen that other thread - if I were her elder dd's teachers, I'd be refusing to take her on any more trips - and I bet the OP would kick off and blame the school if they did this!

So do I. I doubt given her mother's attitude so clearly demonstrated on most of her threads that daughter has much respect for whole class expectations or collective responsibility.

Her elder daughter's dyslexic - but I don't think that means she can be allowed to put school trips at risk. The OP's blasé attitude to it on that thread tells me what I need to know about the lack of respect she has herself and models to her children.

You should walk a mile in the other person's shoes OP before you next decide that behaving as you have done is acceptable.

I knew I shouldn't have put that and that someone would link the threads (very bad form *ilovesnotty).

Air headed does my incredibly hardworking, clever, determined and resilient older DD1 a total disservice and I shouldn't have written it.

For DD1 dyslexia comes combined with a difficulty in reading social cues and she finds making friends really difficult. She was born without the instinct that makes a child stay close to it's carers, but she is not autistic and is very empathetic. She is a complicated child, but not the subject of this thread .

If she's so rubbish at German why not get a Y11 to help her? She's missing out on a useful language and skill.