WIBU to consider writing to every man in the world

[TheRealAmandaClarke]

To inform them all (probably leave Dh out of the round robin) that I do not want to have sex with them unless and until further formal notice from me?

As it seems that there is such confusion among so many people about the nature of consent I want to avoid putting any of them in the terribly awkward position of wondering whether simply being in the same room as them means they are invited to stick their dick in me.
So is that an unreasonable proposition?

No letter writing for you then, Buffy.

I am the OP.

(no, not really)

BTw, you're looking quite creepy lately pan.

OP, YABVU. I wouldn't flatter yourself - not only is it offensive to suggest every man's a rapist, I doubt 99% of them are really interested anyway ;)

Did someone bypass the entire thread and jump straight to page 14 in order to 'wittily' comment?

It's Ok to be sexist, as long as its against men.

It's Ok to be sexist, as long as its against men.

You'll live mate.

While you're at it, you should probably inform every op woman that most men don't want a relationship or marriage. Oh wait the prejudice and generalisations only flow one way...? Oops, sorry!

Buffy.

Babycham if you feel the OP is a prejudiced generalisation about men, why are you making a prejudiced generalisation about men in response?

While you're at it, you should probably inform every op woman that most men don't want a relationship or marriage. Oh wait the prejudice and generalisations only flow one way...? Oops, sorry

Sigh, I never said what you're suggesting I did.

The OP was quite clearly being sexist towards men, and as I said she shouldn't flatter herself by thinking that every man in the room wants to shag her, because it's untrue.

I said she shouldn't flatter herself by thinking that every man in the room wants to shag her, because it's untrue.

We've never seen her, perhaps every man in the room does want to shag her but manage to restrain themselves from doing so. Perhaps she's gorgeous enough that every woman in the room would want to shag her too. I'm certainly not averse to a bit of lady-love if a woman is sexually appealing to me. It could actually be true, however, that was not the point she was trying to make.

The OP was talking about rapists John. Not normal men who might want to engage with normal consensual sex who would not presume to have sex with out a yes from her. Rapists just want to violate people. Children/ the very elderly/women in coma. They aren't concerned about hotness.

So yes that is exactly what you said.

Whether or not every or no man (or woman) wants to shag OP is entirely irrelevant to the possibility of mutually consensual sex as she is in a state of unvarying non consent with respect to them.

Therefore no sex should occur.

It's not tricky, it really isn't .

OP, YANBU. That's all. There are some really stupid people on this thread, it's a bit worrying. I wonder whether stupidity might actually be a factor in rape, maybe some people are just too stupid to get it? After reading this thread I'm starting to think maybe consent is just too complex an idea for some people to grasp?

Trying to explain it in plain words, which is how I read the OP, doesn't seem to help, some people especially some of the men on here just seem to be getting even more confused, like they're trying to get their head around it and just failing

Pan. Why are you calling me buffy?

Hi everyone.
Just caught up with thread

Thank goodness for some of you.

What I find particularly interesting are the statements declaring that I am not attractive to a poster/ anyone else.
Apart from the fact that you cannot possibly tell what I look like, so have no idea whether or not you (or your DP) would find me desirable (as if that were not enough) the use of that statement as an insult (i suspect in response to the affront caused to one's ego by the round robin) is quite fascinating and bit disturbing.
It simply is another example of objectification.
I have heard accounts of men using this as a defence, despite later being convicted of the rape they were denying.

Buffy

Oh. I see. Pan thought I was a sock puppeting buffy

Ah, ffs - I'm with you, OP (and your sockpuppet Buffy ).

Been lurking since the start and I find it hard to comprehend how dim most some people can be. Cos, you know, obviously rapists only want gorgeous women (which I'm sure you are, TheRealAmandaClarke) and these rapists are weird-looking and easily spotted - they're not normal men like husbands, boyfriends, colleagues, brothers, uncles, fathers, sons ...

How sad.

A lot of the same names from the many CE threads who have said that 'she was asking for it' or words similar, are here, still demonstrating that they understand nothing at all about the nature of consent.

Add me to the bottom of the letter TRAC, please, despite that I'm certainly no catch, and obviously far too old and ugly to rape, and wear clothes top to toe. You never know which rape myths a persn might be believing at any given time, do you?

kawliga I'm worried that you are right and That's what makes this thread and others on MN at the moment so depressing.

Maybe the letter could be simplified if it's too hard to grasp? It could just say "no matter who you are or what you think, don't touch me in any way unless I clearly indicate that it's ok, emergency situations excepted".

That leaves no room for error.

Look, Amanda, you're going to have to post a picture of yourself.
If we don't know what you look like, how the hell can we decide whether or not to listen to your opinions/laugh at your jokes?

Well one may assume she resembles a woman in some form, so obviously we wouldn't be laughing at her so-called jokes.