to ask why do mn's dislike the daily mail so much ?

[mrsfuzzy]

i'm itching to know why many mn's slag off the daily mail, what is their choice of paper to read, and why, just curious, considering some of the others on sale.

FlowerFairy, just how many identities do you have on here?

(One and I have never voluntarily name changed on any website ever).

fanjo yes I do. You ?

I don't agree with some aspects of Islam. I don't hate Muslims and think they are trying to take over the UK and ban Christmas a la the Daily Mail.

It has a nasty view of the world. I think its readers adopt that if they were not like that already. People who read it seem to have more negative perceptions of others and society.

My PIL have the DM delivered and you would be hard-pressed to find a more racist couple. Enough said.

It's ridiculous and pretty patronising to make so many sweeping statements about people based on what paper they buy. The red-tops have a readership of millions, that's quite a few people some of you are writing off as unable to think for themselves. What makes you all so much more intelligent and better than them?

Do racists not read any other papers then windchime?

I have the Telegraph on Saturdays because I like the crossword, that's all. Not the rest of it. When we go to the beach in the sumer with my parents, siblings and all our children, we buy all the papers. I wonder what assumptions people are making about us? Am I unable to think for myself and a homophobic misogynistic racist when I'm reading the DM one minute, but terribly respectable, intelligent with fully balanced views when I'm reading the Guardian the next?

Some of you criticise the DM and its readers for their narrow views yet you are just as guilty.

Why would you want to pay money to a paper that propagates nasty views?

When people claim they do it because the crossword or puzzles are good it seems pretty lame to me. A pretty high price to pay for a puzzle.

Fanjo, perhaps because you like the sport, puzzles, sleb twaddle, health and beauty and the general escapism of these things and you think 60p is a fair price for that. Habit perhaps. Perhaps because on balance, all things considered, it's the paper that best meets your requirements even though you don't like some of it and it gets you out of the house for a walk to the paper shop to buy it. All sorts of reasons. People are actually capable of having a sense of perspective.

I can't imagine how good the puzzles would have to be to make it worth it to me to pay them my money.

"It gets you out of the house for a walk to buy it". I see. It's positively a public service now.

It would be the same walk if you bought a different paper. You might even enjoy the walk more if you bought a different paper, rather than expecting to get mugged or something.

FaFoutis

I pay £2 for the Telegraph on Saturdays just for the crossword. Most of the time that's my entire entertainment for the weekend. I consider that good value. My dad does the same. He is a staunch socialist btw but he grew up with the Telegraph and has always bought it for the crossword. On Sunday evening I ring my dad 200 miles away and we compare notes, then we look at Big Dave's Telegraph Crossord website for the hints on those we can't get. My dad is old and not in good health. This gives both of us a lot of fun and pleasure, not to mention mental stimulation for him. If that's 'lame', well that's us then.

The Telegraph is not the Mail though, very different.

Agreed FaF, but I am making the point that people buy papers for all sorts of reasons. Actually I have seen the Telegraph treated with the same level of vitriol in some quarters.

I just did the "look on the right hand side and scroll down" thing, out of interest.

(I already dislike the Mail)

My eye was caught by a photo of a woman wearing a sheepskin jacket and the headline "Lovely Jubbly" criticising her for the choice of jacket as she had "taken style inspiration from DelBoy".

Immediately below it was a photo of the designer, Valentino, in a near identical men's version of the same type of sheepskin jacket. However, he "looks stylish while enjoying a stroll". WTF?

Double standards. Women hating rag - a waste of print. The problem is, people do BELIEVE it all. My grandfather, a daily mail reader for many years, went to his grave believing that the papers couldn't tell a lie! The amount of things that man read in the paper which raised his blood pressure is unbelievable.

I really shouldn't look at it ever, it makes me shouty! and stabby

I agree I am talking about the Mail not the Telegraph.

I had never read The Daily Mail either in paper or online until I joined this forum.I don't know any one who reads it and, shock horror, neither my mother in law nor when they were alive my father in law, my mother or my grandparents read it.

I usually don't bother clicking on the links as it seems entirely pointless. The link will be to some nonsense story and it boosts their advertising revenue every time you visit the site.

I do think there are MNetters who just love to hate it. It's a chance to post a link to an outrageous article, rant about it, hold up your impeccable liberal credentials and moan about what a vile country the UK is.

The average daily sales in 2014 were 1.8 million. If you add them together the sales of all the quality broadsheets come to 1.8 million.

Adding in the leftie leaning redtops of The Mirror and The Daily Record gives another 1.3 million non Daily Mail readers. These figures don't include regional press such as The Aberdeen Press and Journal, Yorkshire Post etc (which if the P&J is anything are to go by are as close to purely factual reporting as you'll get)

The Mail is a terrible paper (we know that, it's a given) but its existence does not mean we are going to hell in a handcart nor that an MN forum needs to give it the publicity it does.

I disagree. I think people actually do hate it. Well I do. I don't give a toss what people think of my credentials

Oh and there is nothing wrong with The Telegraph.

It is well written and articulate. It has great obituaries, a good crossword and good arts coverage. I alternate daily between The Telegraph and The Guardian.

So many people on here hate it....yet half the news links people post are from the DM with daft apologies that said link is from said newspaper.

No-one admits to reading it until they post a link with a story the DM has run which they don't like?!

Oooookay