To agree with Katie Hopkins?

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I know, I know!!
Turned on Radio2, initially had no idea who it was and found myself nodding along to every word.

As a 'fatty' myself I had to agree with all she said. I did this to myself. I like food, especially junk food waaay too much. I hate exercise a lot. Nobody to blame but me.

The horror of agreeing with her may, possibly, finally force me to get off my arse and do something about it though I will never in RL admit that she has made me wake up and realise this is all on me

All I would add, as clearly she cannot be completely right and understanding life in anyone else's shoes, that her circumstance is different to mine.

My weight crept on gradually over the years.
My mindset has never been to actively put weight on with the intention of losing it again, I simply developed bad habits over a long time.

Aside from the fat shaming shit she spouts you have to question the mindset of a woman who described Michael Gove 'Delicious'

Well I'm going on a diet myself. Her brand of "help" is obvious and glib. That said if it really is that simple I'll let you know in s few months.

Personally I find it very easy to add but rather hard to minus.

Her experiment is obviously flawed and her arguments simplistic but I was genuinely astounded at how much she ate to put on the weight. I am hugely overweight myself and, despite being very big already, I can put weight on by eating just small amounts of the wrong stuff despite being active. She took no exercise and ate shedloads

Ujjayi Congratulations for sticking with it !!

Oh and KH has epilepsy so not soo amazingly healthy, if she took her own advice she could beat it !!!

ppeatfruit - thank you.

KH is vile & I am often astounded that she is invited to provide soundbites on topics.

Obesity does need to be addressed but how how do we do that when people remain defensive & in denial of their own responsibility?

I've seen this experiment done before (to a lesser extent) by a personal trainer. He did to increase his understanding of some of his clients.
Personally I haven't got any problem with what she says. It does apply to me. I'm one of those people who steadily gain weight if I don't consciously control my food intake and exercise. It is easy to make excuses for overeating or missing exercising and all those occassions add up. I can see why some people get annoyed though.
I'll watch her programme, and the one on channel 4 if I get the chance. I find programmes about weightloss interesting and motivational rather than 'fat shaming'.

I am the only one hoping she finds it really hard to lose the last 10lbs?

She's an idiot.

ppeatfruit

fasicle She put on 4 stone and found it difficult to start running it off, she actually did say she sympathised with people who also find it hard.

I'm sure it was harder relative to exercising as her slimmer self. But she made the point of stopping exercising for her 'experiment', and she strikes me as somebody who has made exercise an integral part of their life, just as for others, overeating is an entrenched habit. So I think she would have relished getting back to exercising (as well as it being a means to return to her former weight), whereas exercising for a non exercising person would no doubt be a much harder proposition.

Most fat people are fat because they have complex issues with regard to body image and eating

Is that a fact or is it assumed? I honestly don't know if there has been any research that concludes why most fat people are fat?

I think there are many many factors to take into consideration, including how common place driving is nowadays, the availability of junk food delivered to our doors, supermarkets with everything under one roof, 100s of TV channels, computers, gadgets that make our work less physical, massive portions of food (look at most restaurant desserts)....the list is absolutely endless.

So whilst complex issues will come in to it for some people, I'm no sure we can say it does for most.

Eat less, move more. Eat too much you put weigh on. Eat take out andnother crap you put weight on. If the bulk of your meals are not veg, youll put weight on. If youre on medication which can affect your weight, keep a closer eye on your weight. It honestly is simple. If you dont know what is a healthy diet, google it. If youve not done any exercise this week, do some. It will make you feel happier too.

Yabu for listening to that vile excuse for a woman

However op I feel like you do - when referring to myself, not anyone else though!

I lost a lot of weight several years ago. I rarely tell people so very few people know I used to be obese, and family and friends who knew me before seem to have pretty much forgotten what I looked like I don't tell people because I cannot bring myself to see the weight loss as an achievement - I see it as fixing something awful that I did - eating myself to over 20 stone!!

I did that to myself, no one else did. So of course it was up to me to fix it.

That sounds very simplistic, and obviously there is a lot more to it, however that is pretty much how I feel.

Yet when I hear of others losing weight I celebrate their success with them, and am amazed by their achievements. I don't blame other's for their weight either and realise there are complex reasons for it.

Yet when it comes to myself, I feel ashamed and guilty for doing it to myself I think it stems from years of close family making me feel that way!

Agree with worra.

I'm sure all these complex health issues were around a long time ago, but obesity is steadily rising now.

It astounds me that Hopkins attracts such vitriol for stating what appears to be the bleeding obvious. I realise that fat is, allegedly 'a feminist issue', but why? I can only think her inane pronouncements attract such rage because they really are close to the bone. People don't react well to the uncomfortable truth, and what Hopkins says is a direct challenge to many of the excuses that people hide behind (and convince themselves of).

Antidepressants to exacerbate weight gain, and some people do have serious physical disabilities, mental health issues or learning disabilities that make weight loss much harder. However, these comprise a vanishingly small part of the population.

The reason Britain is the second fattest country in Europe is not because of a mental health epidemic; it's because of our culture. We eat too much process shite, and live far too sedentary lives. You can't blame 'happiness', economics or the weather; Japan, the Mediterranean and Scandinavian countries are all much slimmer than us, and demonstrate (variously) worse weather, higher suicide rates, more poverty and worse mental health. It IS, on a population-level, down to lousy diet and inactivity.

Had to listen in the car with 4 10/11 year olds still incensed over the poor delivery driver.

I have a query.

She says she is 5ft 8 and went from 8 1/2 stone to 12 1/2. Isn't 8 1/2 for that height very near underweight which frankly imvho if self induced is not that great either.

Also for a healthy BMI for that height the stoneage must be quite high so she didn't exactly go vastly overweight so it can't have been that hard to shift.

Not up with BMI so may well be completely wrong.

If you have always been slim, it is likely that you eat in a way that is in balance with your body.

The KH experiment is useless because she will automatically revert to her normal eating habits which are the ones which keep her slim.

What does she think she can teach people that are overweight with her fat shaming, supercilious attitude?

I really dislike her.

True babycham Years ago you were lucky to have one car per family now hardly anyone WALKS anywhere let alone RUNS!!! Also the screens we're on ALL the time FGS. There was telly, we'd watch for a couple of hours in the evening and that was it!

Totally agree it was a rubbish 'experiment'.

She's normally very fit, is able to use a gym/swim etc and has time to exercise a lot. She piled the weight on really quickly and then was able to diet and exercise it off immediately. She doesn't have an emotional or physical issue that lead her to comfort or over eat.

Try the same experiment with a 50+ woman who has been overweight for many years, comfort eats because she is in an unhappy relationship and has low self esteem, has arthritis in her knees, feet and wrists, who works full time and has no one to help with housework, shopping, looking after older relatives and who is struggling with menopause symptoms. Someone who fits into that demographic is going to have a great deal more difficulty losing 3 stone in 3 months, than Katy Hopkins.

The reason people put weight on is far more complex than Katy Hopkins appears to understand. The reason they find it almost impossible to lose that weight, is also far more complex.

Sorry Worral I just noticed I'm repeating your post, it does bear repeating though. !!

I picked up on the fact that she mentioned several times - that some overweight people joined her in the experiment and also managed good weight loss. I'll be watching the programme and be interested particularly to see how long they had been overweight, what "issues" they felt were behind it and what happened to them.

I agree that there are a lot of factors behind the increasing weight of the nation in general. However, I do have some sympathy for the view that, for most people, we are overweight because we eat too much, the wrong food, and don't exercise enough.

LaPetite She said she's too thin at 8 and half stone for her height and she gets insults about being a "skinny bitch" or whatever.

Just read her Ebola Bomb stuff.
Silly Bitch,

As someone who has yo-yoed between a size 12 and 24 for over thirty years, I feel much more qualified than Katie to judge people on their appearance. I was exactly the same person as a size 12 as I was when a size 24 (and all the other sizes in between).

Therefore I realise that it is lazy and simplistic to judge someone on their appearance and to assume 'slim' is good 'fat' is bad.

Slim people can be unhealthy too but their 'bad' health choices are hidden so they can be judged acceptable by the likes of Katie and won't face the looks of disapproval/negative assumptions that fat people have to endure on a regular basis, both from the media and in day to day life.

For what it's worth, I'm in my fifties now and have always been healthy whatever I weighed; rarely see GP, no medication, excellent attendance record at work etc. Maybe I am lucky, I certainly think that my yo-yo dieting has had the potential to do me more harm than just staying at a size 16 for thirty plus years.

Katie has a new book/tv series coming out soon so she needs to stay in the public eye as much as possible, how better to achieve this than by targeting people based on their appearance? Sad.

I just remembered the most recent research done on the chemical sweeteners. They've discovered that they alter our gut bacteria and are more likely make us fat then normal sweeteners. Sorry I can't link. but it'll be on google.

So all the diet drinks are making us fatter. In fact as we know diets make us fat too.