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Surely we shouldn't be expected to pay everyone's bill at Xmas meal?

649 replies

MeetMyCat · 22/12/2014 17:32

On Boxing Day, DH and I are going out for a meal with DSS, my Dad, Dad's partner, and my brother. So six of us in total. When this was arranged earlier in the year, I (obviously) invited everyone, checked they were all happy with the venue, timings etc etc. I didn't mention who would pick up the tab, it never entered my head to be honest, and I certainly didn't give anyone the impression it was "our treat."

The background to this, is that no one on the guest list (with the exception of DSS (student) and obviously we'll pay for him) is particularly hard up, but there is history of reluctance to share the bill at social events. My brother is 41, single with no kids, works as an architect, but will never buy anyone a drink. My dad is retired, but very comfortable, enjoys lots of holidays, but tends to assume DH will pay for everything if there's a family gathering. Dad's partner (they don't live together, but have been together for over 10 years) was recently made redundant, so I'm not sure about her current financial situation. But however tight they are, they're my family, so I like to see them at Christmas.

Last night, DH commented "what on earth do we do if no one offers to contribute towards the bill on Boxing Day - do I say anything?" Now whilst we can afford to pay for ourselves and DSS, the thought of picking up the whole tab is rather scary - set menu at £65 per head, plus drinks, for six people. Ok, so we'd still be able to eat (but it would be beans on toast!) and pay the bills in January, but it's a lot of money, not to mention the principle.

As I said earlier, we asked everyone if they wanted to go out for a meal, they all said yes, and we never suggested we'd pay for everyone. But as we made the arrangements, does etiquette dictate we should pay? And as dad's partner has now lost her job, is her share of the bill our responsibility as 'organisers'?

Looking back, I can't remember a single time when anyone wanted to split a bill/buy a drink etc for DH and I, and I wish I'd remembered this when I made the Boxing Day booking.

So do I say something upfront, or do I assume (and hope and pray) that normal social etiquette will prevail, and wait for everyone to contribute when the bill arrives? Surely we shouldn't be expected to foot the whole bill?

OP posts:
hehehahahoho · 26/12/2014 22:50

Thank you for the update OP. It's good that your DB offered to pay.

I wonder why your DH isn't comfortable splitting the bill. It would have been such an easy thing to have done.

rollonthesummer · 26/12/2014 23:14

Why on earth did your DH pay?! I'm totally bemused!

Lweji · 26/12/2014 23:16

You know they won't offer to pay the full meal to all of you next time, don't you?

BackforGood · 26/12/2014 23:27

Madness I tell you, madness!

SamCroClaus · 26/12/2014 23:29

??? really

GazpachoSoup · 26/12/2014 23:31

I suspect that everyone was "so full" "only had two courses" and didn't want to drink, because, for once, they were paying for themselves rather than freeloading on your DH and therefore actually cared about the size of the bill.

Been following this thread but not posting. EXACTLY this, with bells on!

NewName2015 · 26/12/2014 23:41

At least they offered!

Spadequeen · 26/12/2014 23:42

Glad you're happy with the outcome but be prepared for them to always expect you to pay, very mixed messages for your extended family

GarlicDrankTheChristmasSpirit · 26/12/2014 23:47

everyone appeared to be fine with the email I sent, and I hope this has set a precedent.

Excellent! Well done Flowers Grin

It was very nice of you & DH to cover the bill anyway, and bloody good news that Pa was ready with the readies. Discussions over payment will be much more straightforward from now on, won't they?!

imjustahead · 26/12/2014 23:50

this reminds me of those shopping trips i have with my mother, when she spots something she loves, and then doesn't buy it, then we go round every other shop, and end up in a mad, tired, ratty and rush back at the shop we started.

frustrating and all a bit pointless

IsChippyMintonExDirectory · 27/12/2014 00:02

Must every thread have a 'point'?

I'm just picturing the OP rushing to her husband in the restaurant just as he's about to punch his PIN in to pay, saying "Stop!! tell my dad and brother they have to pay after all - Mumsnet are expecting a victory and will be very cross if I don't deliver!"

Evabeaversprotege · 27/12/2014 00:06

Yip, your dh likes being top dog, splashing the cash, doesn't he?

funnyface31 · 27/12/2014 00:07

I think op had been a bit braggy from the beginning (look we can pay, kind of message).
Really did not see the point of this thread unless the bill was shared (which is what op moaned on about throughout). Agree with other poster as being weird!

imjustahead · 27/12/2014 00:09

'Surely we shouldn't be expected to pay everyones bill at Xmas meal' was the header and subject.

then they did, so now it will be expected again, like it was in the first instance.

Floggingmolly · 27/12/2014 00:09

What a ridiculous fuss about what turns out to be fuck all... Hmm

Blondeshavemorefun · 27/12/2014 00:20

So after all the advice and yes I've just read all 561 posts - and you had brother and dad happily offering to share /split the bill - you then turn round and say don't worry dh will pay Hmm

Don't post again saying the same thing ie I want to go for a meal and want to split the bill and make sure my stingy relatives pay as fed up of dh footing the bill - next time the whole family goes out for a meal

The amount doesnt matter it the principal and you have just shot yourself in the foot (and wallet lol) for future gatherings

MissBattleaxe · 27/12/2014 00:27

Yes, you have set a precedent.

See you next year OP, same place, same time, same thread...

Happy New Year!

Haggismcbaggis · 27/12/2014 00:29

If we are confused & bemused - just think how her relatives must feel. "We got all these demented emails with follow up texts about splitting the bill on - but they were paying anyway - what the hell was that about .....?"

TheHatInTheCat · 27/12/2014 00:31

WHAT A MUG!
They take the piss out of you and you let them!!!

TheNewWitchOfSWL · 27/12/2014 00:34

I think the OP and her H like to show off. Not only here but in RL too.

CheerfulYank · 27/12/2014 00:34

That was a mistake.

They didn't spend nearly as much because they'd have to pay for it, then your DH did anyway. Bet you anything you like they'll order the most expensive things next time and expect it paid for, and bet he'll do it too.

Oh well, your choice! Hope it was nice Xmas Smile

hehehahahoho · 27/12/2014 00:47

Blimey, some posters are hard to please Confused . The poster asked advice and actually took the advice given in the thread and sent her DB a text. It sounds like it was a big deal for her to do this and she thanked posters accordingly.

The OPs title was 'Surely we shouldn't be expected to pay'. The issue was the 'expectation' ie she wanted other people to offer. The fact the DH chose to pay doesn't really matter, the main thing is that the DB offered to pay and did not expect the DH to.

Ajaneyinamanger · 27/12/2014 07:33

I think in your shoes, after all the hand wringing and angst you felt over this, I would have let everyone pay their share.
However, you said you wouldn't be organising anything like this again so hopefully this won't arise again because the only precedent that has been set as far as I can see is that you and your DH pay the bill!

jaynebxl · 27/12/2014 07:44

I hope this has set a precedent.

Yup I'm sure it has. And I hope you are happy to pay next time.

My bil always insists on paying, it's quite insulting because with it he's cementing his position of being considerably richer than us. I'm not bothered by that but his insistence on paying really comes across as a dig!

This.

diddl · 27/12/2014 08:00

And did you get no say in the matter?

Because I'd be seriously fucked off if everyone was supposed to pay & husband unilaterally decided to pick up the tab again!

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