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Surely we shouldn't be expected to pay everyone's bill at Xmas meal?

649 replies

MeetMyCat · 22/12/2014 17:32

On Boxing Day, DH and I are going out for a meal with DSS, my Dad, Dad's partner, and my brother. So six of us in total. When this was arranged earlier in the year, I (obviously) invited everyone, checked they were all happy with the venue, timings etc etc. I didn't mention who would pick up the tab, it never entered my head to be honest, and I certainly didn't give anyone the impression it was "our treat."

The background to this, is that no one on the guest list (with the exception of DSS (student) and obviously we'll pay for him) is particularly hard up, but there is history of reluctance to share the bill at social events. My brother is 41, single with no kids, works as an architect, but will never buy anyone a drink. My dad is retired, but very comfortable, enjoys lots of holidays, but tends to assume DH will pay for everything if there's a family gathering. Dad's partner (they don't live together, but have been together for over 10 years) was recently made redundant, so I'm not sure about her current financial situation. But however tight they are, they're my family, so I like to see them at Christmas.

Last night, DH commented "what on earth do we do if no one offers to contribute towards the bill on Boxing Day - do I say anything?" Now whilst we can afford to pay for ourselves and DSS, the thought of picking up the whole tab is rather scary - set menu at £65 per head, plus drinks, for six people. Ok, so we'd still be able to eat (but it would be beans on toast!) and pay the bills in January, but it's a lot of money, not to mention the principle.

As I said earlier, we asked everyone if they wanted to go out for a meal, they all said yes, and we never suggested we'd pay for everyone. But as we made the arrangements, does etiquette dictate we should pay? And as dad's partner has now lost her job, is her share of the bill our responsibility as 'organisers'?

Looking back, I can't remember a single time when anyone wanted to split a bill/buy a drink etc for DH and I, and I wish I'd remembered this when I made the Boxing Day booking.

So do I say something upfront, or do I assume (and hope and pray) that normal social etiquette will prevail, and wait for everyone to contribute when the bill arrives? Surely we shouldn't be expected to foot the whole bill?

OP posts:
Starlightbright1 · 26/12/2014 22:17

i am also confused as to the results

movingtoourwillow · 26/12/2014 22:17

What???!!! Oh come on OP this was the time to break the precedent!!! Can't believe I watched this thread, what an annoying update! Yeah yeah merry Christmas whatever

Nickypig · 26/12/2014 22:18

Awww. MeetMyCat! Totally understand why you did that but you're a great big clucking chicken!

Though I expect, from now on - you will ALWAYS send a clarifying bill split email! At least you escaped unscathed!

AuntyBatshit · 26/12/2014 22:19

Really is like sitting through a three hour movie...with a crap ending!

Sprink · 26/12/2014 22:24

Oh good grief, talk about snatching defeat from the jaws of victory.

You still sound lovely, OP. Happy Christmas.

CassieBearRawr · 26/12/2014 22:26

Haha. Good luck getting them to pay ever again! Oh well. If you have the cash to fork out for it, it's your money.

funambulist · 26/12/2014 22:26

Oh dear OP.

I suspect that everyone was "so full" "only had two courses" and didn't want to drink, because, for once, they were paying for themselves rather than freeloading on your DH and therefore actually cared about the size of the bill.

This would have been the perfect time for them to pay their way as you needn't feel bad about them having to pay when they might not have expected to as it was only a small bill anyway.

If you invite them out, say that your DH isn't paying and then he pays anyway then what on earth are you going to do next time?

TheNewWitchOfSWL · 26/12/2014 22:27

I think the OP's husband paid for all the bill.
It must be a wind up surely?
All the complaint about the others not paying, all the angst about talking money to her own family, all the drama.
Now they just go and pay?
God knows, I believe now her H fights to pick up the bill every time that is why no one was contributing.
Maybe he needs to validate himself by paying...

Pipbin · 26/12/2014 22:28

Why did he pay? This is going to make them think that they can get away with not paying because DH will pay anyway.

inlectorecumbit · 26/12/2014 22:29

oh dear..in the end a totally pointless thread and a waste of time

TheNewWitchOfSWL · 26/12/2014 22:30

I think they like to show off to the rest of the family by paying restaurant bills TBH.

onthematleavecountdown · 26/12/2014 22:31

They ate and drank less as they for once were going to have to pay!

Next time they will stuff their faces and expect you to pay even if you send out the same email saying it is to be split.

Seriously why did he pay? You have well and truly made your bed. Good luck.

chocomochi · 26/12/2014 22:32

Read through the whole thread (and sorry OP), but disappointed with the outcome. Despite the bill being smaller than anticipated, you've further set another precedence of you and DH paying again. Shooting yourselves in the foot comes to mind.

YonicSleighdriver · 26/12/2014 22:33

Can people please not call OP and her thread a pointless waste of time? She's not responsible for this becoming a 21 page thread and has only posted a handful of times.

OP, I wouldn't have made the choice you did but glad they offered at least and glad you aren't £400 down!

TheNewWitchOfSWL · 26/12/2014 22:35

We can call the thread whatever we want...

HappenstanceMarmite · 26/12/2014 22:35

Completely wasted opportunity to set a precedent. With minimal pain too. Meh

hhhhhhh · 26/12/2014 22:36

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Teeb · 26/12/2014 22:37

So everyone had offered to pay their share, but your DH steamrolled through to pay the entire meal anyway? Yabu then. What a load of angst and bother to show off as chief martyr/financiers of the family.

Vycount · 26/12/2014 22:40

"So whilst this certainly hasn't solved the wider 'reluctance to pay issue' everyone appeared to be fine with the email I sent, and I hope this has set a precedent."

Oh dear Op, this certainly has set a precedent. That is, that your DH will pay for meals for everyone, even when they've been warned that they will pay. Oh well, you're obviously a very generous couple, but remember, you reap what you sow. Grin

I'm sure that after reading the posts above you've twigged that it's most likely that the only reason the family didn't eat as much as usual was because they were expecting to pay their own bills.

Vycount · 26/12/2014 22:41

p.s. I don't think the thread was a waste of time either. Op posted a few times when she had updates. It's not her fault if half of MN wittered on for 22 pages, and spent half of those posts "marking" places. GrinGrin

MokunMokun · 26/12/2014 22:41

I think it's nice to treat people to dinner if you can. Glad you had a good meal but I still think it would have been a nice gesture if they had paid for you. Perhaps ask your brother to organise dinner next year and he can pay for everyone?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 26/12/2014 22:43

No, you can't NewWitch because a) OP owes nothing to you or the rest of the timewasters (including myself) on this thread and b) It's rude.

None of us are performing brain surgery whilst engaged in 'marking place' and hoping for a ranty update from the OP, we're just kicking our toes in the dust. Own it... and don't be rude!

OP... I think you need an intervention but I doubt you and your husband will accept one so good luck to you, hope the freeloading doesn't tick you off next time... certainly, don't even think of starting a thread about it. Xmas Wink

LovleyRitaMeterMaid · 26/12/2014 22:43

My bil always insists on paying, it's quite insulting because with it he's cementing his position of being considerably richer than us. I'm not bothered by that but his insistence on paying really comes across as a dig!

Pipbin · 26/12/2014 22:44

Quite agree Vycount. It's not like this is a novel with a bad ending. It's just real things that happened.

I do still think that he was a fool to pay the bill.

TheNewWitchOfSWL · 26/12/2014 22:46

hahahahaha