Hartlepool and the Rapist Ched Evans :(

[WeirdCatLady]

Oh dear. Please no.

Apologies for a DM link

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2881937/Hartlepool-reveal-want-sign-convicted-rapist-Ched-Evans-despite-national-outcry-return-football.html

I suspect he might find it hard to get a job as a painter. Most local tradesmen use having a clean DBS check as a selling point, so someone on the sex offenders register would struggle.

I take on board the arguments that the rapist Ched Evans should not be re-employed in a position where he could act as a role model to young people - boys or girls.

On a strictly personal basis, I would prefer that he appeared in front of a crowd on a Saturday afternoon and sometimes alone or with friends in bars chatting up girls of an evening.

Number one, there'd be thousands of witnesses and he'd be on the park with men. Number two, I don't go clubbing any more.

The idea that I might welcome a convicted and unrepentant rapist into my home to do a bit of painting and decorating horrifies me.

The rapist Ched Evans doesn't think he did any thing wrong that night so why should I feel safe that he might tell a jury that I wanted it?

Because that's what women do. That's what he told the police.

What can we do with him? He cannot be exterminated, that would be very wrong. Bad. Unforgivable

Therefore I think we should continue to examine his case in order to lead him to redemption.

I think the Jesuits said that torment is good for the soul.

Does anyone have a link to the actual facts in the case? I am banging my head against a brick wall with someone (not here) who thinks he "just" took advantage of a drunk young woman and has paid the price.

He is still on licence, why is he being offered a job?

Getting ex-offenders into jobs is an important part of rehabilitation.

If he admitted what he'd done/ even admitted that whilst at the time he didn't think it was rape but he realises now it was/ admitted that even if it had been found not to be rape his behaviour was still reprehensible and that the only thing he wants young men to copy is his skills with a ball, then let him play.

Oh and publicly apologises to the victim.

storytown you can present them with the facts of the case but if they don't accept it there's nothing you can do.

That's despite it being the verdict of people from the local town who have experience of the local clubbing culture who acquitted one of the men. What a conspiracy.

But I'm glad someone has given it to you. Good luck with that and your friend

Thanks Chunderella. He's actually found that one himself after going off to find out the facts, as I implored him to do. And it hasn't changed his view

Not someone I know well, or someone I have to spend any time with but the fact that "ordinary" people can feel that way is by far the most saddening thing about this whole sorry business for me. It has quite ruined my day.

He's read the report you posted but thinks Evans is no worse than McDonald who was acquitted

I thik there is actually a clear distinction between what McDaonald did and Evans. McDonald could reasonably have believed that the woman was with him through her own free will. There was no possibility of that for Evans.

I don't think there is a clear distinction between what McDonald and Evans did.

I think the jury decided that McDonald had cause to believe she consented to sex by returning to the hotel room willingly. I might not have agreed but I wasn't in court.

I pleased that they thought that what Evans did was rape.

Apparently the new petition at change.org has attracted a new signature per second since it went on line this afternoon.