Hartlepool and the Rapist Ched Evans :(

[WeirdCatLady]

Oh dear. Please no.

Apologies for a DM link

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2881937/Hartlepool-reveal-want-sign-convicted-rapist-Ched-Evans-despite-national-outcry-return-football.html

His own words convicted him.

His. Own. Words.

He did what he did. The law says that what he did was rape, and therefore convicted him. He disagrees and says it wasn't rape, so he's innocent. He's wrong.

yes but loads of people think they are wrongly convicted. that is their right to think that

I believe if Chad showed remorse and admitted what he had done, the media and people would more likely leave him alone to play football. He has served his time but learnt nothing from it so yes he carry on being harassed.

loads of people don't change their ways though. Reoffending rates are high for most crimes

Of course footballers are role models. And not just for children. My dh is football crazy, so we end up going into several sports shops and the Norwich City FC shop in Norwich (where else!) People of all ages queue up to have their fav player's name printed on their strip. These famous players really are looked-up to, and they should be worthy of that.

Wrongly convicted, perhaps if someone did not commit a crime, yet they were disbelieved, say, by the jury.
In this case, Evans did commit the crime, and admitted as much. e just doesn't agree with the law that what he did was a crime. Tough luck on him though, as it was a crime. And he's guilty of it.

Even more reason for him not to be in the public eye then. If you're suggesting that he'll just be yet another recidivism stat.

meirasa yes, most adults don't view footballers as role models, themselves

Glad they decided not to sign this scumbag.

and you cant have different criteria of rehabilitation for footballers....

elizabeth CE has not disputed what he did. what he did is not in doubt. He maintans it isnt rape, whilst the law of the UK deems it is

its not a conflict of accounts of what happened

Thanks for the pithy one liners there, Elizabeth.

No one is suggesting different rehabilitation criteria for footballers. Apart from those who think that an unrepentant rapist who condones thousands of people hounding his victim should be able to just swagger back into that career. They seem to think that that is just fine.

Great post, sovery.

i just watched Sky News interview of Iain Wright. The reporter asked the question 'when should [he] stop being punished?'

i think thats really the crux of it. It is not about punishing him

Agreed mwalimu, this has bugger all to do with punishing him. What this has to do with is who we, as a society, want our children watching and emulating. There is enough poor behaviour among footballers already without having ones guilty of serious violent crimes playing.

Whether a person believes it or not doesn't change the fact that many children look up to and want to emulate the behaviour of football players, because they and society sees them as role models.

Who in their right mind would want a rapist being used as a role model?

www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/30568783

They are not going sign him.

ARGH! You know, the stupid thing about 'oh but he says he didnt do it'...

The victim did not have any memory of the event. The rapist chedwyn was convicted on the testimony of CM and himself. He pretty much admitted it but says, oh but it wasnt rape. Idiot.

I've just seen a comment which suggests that Moore was speaking off the cuff when asked about Internet rumours.

I am now cynically wondering if those rumours were a form of deliberate kite-flying to see if he could secure a club (any club!) in the January transfer window.

I do not think he has a future in any league football club now. No club is going to want to look more desperate than bottom club Hartlepool.

If he wants to continue a playing career, he'll need to look overseas. But he'll have to wait until he has served all his time, not just the custodial bit, before that can happen.

He is very arrogant to think that he himself, is bigger than what he has done

Well, the very bottom club in the football league has now said they won't touch him with a barge pole, so I think CE has a pretty clear idea of where his career's going. More importantly IMO, hopefully many more young men have seen what will happen to them if they decide to have some "fun" with an incapacitated young woman.

Actually No, TrojanWhore - he cannot travel without Probation's permission but that is usually given to take up a serious job offer. It's only non-work travel which licence-release types such as CE are not normally allowed.

Which is as it should be, and he should not be treated worse because he is in the public eye.

So if he gets an offer from a foreign team and that team is in the EU or its country gives him a work permit, he will probably be allowed to take it up.

A mistake. Did he slip and fall into her?

Thanks, Andrewofgg.

I hadn't realised that it was ever permissible to emigrate whilst still on licence.