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That my heart is singing tonight as I have taken DD out of nursery

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CountryMummy1 · 18/12/2014 20:14

That's it! No more miserable mornings, sleepless nights, screaming and crying at drop off, hours of guilty angst.

After a near meltdown yesterday (I posted here) I decided that something had to give and it was Nursery. DD is almost 3 and she hasn't settled in 2 months. She goes 2 mornings a week and it has really affected her. She has been more withdrawn, quick to tears and is so clingy with me she won't even go to her Dad. I've tried everything - talking a lot about nursery, not talking about it, books, bribery, star charts etc. and nothing works. It was a very carefully chosen nursery (we looked at 10) with low child/staff ratio, low staff turnover, child centred etc. She isn't putting it on - she is genuinely devastated when I leave her. I can feel her little heart beating so fast. She tries to be brave but she just can't stop the tears. She spends the whole morning sitting on the lap of her key worker and, although she does join in a bit, she isn't exactly learning much. She rarely speaks (she has speech delay) although her speech has come on so much in the last 6 months at home.

I phoned DD's speech therapist and burst into tears as I'm worried that taking her out of nursery will delay her speech even further. I have seen doctors about her speech (she has a lip tie) and have been told some pretty awful things e.g. "just get her into nursery, she'll have to speak then!" The speech therapist was wonderful. She said that DD was getting excellent speech models at home and from her extended family, and the groups that we attend would also support this. She said that if we weren't happy then that would do DD no favours.

I should know all this. I have a PhD in Early Year Education. I know I can support DD's development well at home. We have a stable home life, close extended family who she sees daily, enough money to do a few different activities, a playroom where we do art/craft activities daily, I am a stay at home mum etc......... AND YET.... I have been brainwashed by the current 'Nursery is best' culture. Everyone of my friend's children are in nursery and I can't help but feel uneasy that my DD isn't. The women who run the SureStart nursery are constantly giving me leaflets and asking if I need help finding a nursery. Everyone asks when she's starting and my MIL is horrified that I have taken her out.

My family supports me as they have seen the change in her, particularly my mum who sees her daily. I thought we might just tick along for the next 6 months and revaluate then.

Please tell me I'm not making a HUGE mistake!! and that she won't always hate school.

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rumbleinthrjungle · 18/12/2014 20:40

Another Early Years/Early Education person, no you are absolutely not making the wrong decision!

Different children need different things, but what really helps children's development is lots of play and interaction with a close bonded adult. That's it. That's been working for thousands of years. You have a very lucky little girl to have a sensitive mum who knows what she needs.

Plenty of children go into reception with no preschool experience at all and do fine.

LePetitMarseillais · 18/12/2014 20:42

Blimey preparing for school at 3,seriously when did it become necessary for that? I have an early years degree and my 3 never went to nursery and somehow coped.

Toilet training,putting a coat on/taking it off,holding a pencil,getting dressed,eating with a knife and fork etc are some useful things but it is by no means necessary for preparation in the form of going to nursery.Surely a parent is just as qualified in being able to teach that or are we all so useless now we can't even provide life skills?

waithorse · 18/12/2014 20:44

Op's daughter isn't going to school for almost another 2 year's. Plenty of time for to prepare for school and you don't need to go to nursery to prepare for school Hmm

ElfontheShelfIsWATCHINGYOUTOO · 18/12/2014 20:47

We currently go to 2 music/drama/play groups and she goes to Ballet and swimming

these sound activity lead, just make sure she is at groups where she can run free with other children, play with what she wants, learn to share, and be snatched from!!!

Maybe its the sure start center that has put all this in your head?

Arnt they for more deprived families where the child may not be getting home support, so they are keen to get them into nurseries? doesnt sound neccasry in your case.

Op, I am a sahm and I can assure you....many of us mums on the toddler play group circuit did what you are doing. A few classes here and there, play groups and so on....my older one is now at school and our children are doing really well, I dont know the others back grounds....but the children I know who were at home until pre school, are getting lots of awards at the school, are top readers and so on.,,,,

ElfontheShelfIsWATCHINGYOUTOO · 18/12/2014 20:48

LePetitMarseillais Thu 18-Dec-14 20:42:40

Reading between the lines it sounds like mis guided stuff from sure start center...

orangeyellowgreen · 18/12/2014 20:48

I persisted with nursery for three months despite my DS hating it. The nursery told me repeatedly that DS was happy and joined in as soon as I left. One day I waited then peeped in the window several times over an hour. DS was standing alone and crying every time.
Of course I took him out and never went back.

MrsDeVere · 18/12/2014 20:48

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RubyrooUK · 18/12/2014 20:48

Don't worry - you can only do what's right for your child.

I have two children who went to nursery as I work full time. My DS1 found it very hard settling at nursery; he was an incredibly clingy shy child. Yet wen he turned 4 and started reception, it didn't take any work to settle him at all. He has always loved school. So children change and want different and new experiences - you have plenty of time to try again or not.

HSMMaCM · 18/12/2014 20:49

Reception class is the preparation for school and it's not the end of the world if they miss that too. You've done the right thing.

Trickydecision · 18/12/2014 20:53

As Aeroflot says, it is quite normal to start school at seven in many countries. I do completely understand that in today's economic climate many parents have no choice but to use a nursery and do it without any undue problems. But I don't think 'nursery is best' if you are lucky enough to have the option of being a SAHM. Sorry if that is MN sacriledge. Children are institutionalised quite soon enough when they go to school without starting the process unnecessarily early. Of course you have done the right thing.

SeasonsEatings · 18/12/2014 20:56

I have just cut nursery from 5 days to three as I felt full time wasn't good for DD.

You have done the right thing, enjoy your time with DD

Pusspuss1 · 18/12/2014 20:58

Omg Orangeyellowgreen - that is heartbreaking!

Op - you've done the right thing. The poor little thing was panicking. She isn't faking a fast heartbeat. Keep her with you until she's ready. Most people use nurseries because they're working and they've got to, truth be told. You're lucky enough have a great alternative, so use it and enjoy it.

RandomMess · 18/12/2014 20:58

Sounds like a fantastic decision to me, well done you for having the guts to follow your instinct when you were feeling so pressurised not to.

LePetitMarseillais · 18/12/2014 21:00

Personally for the maj I think a parent/ grandparent with a few pre school hours later on is actually better.Often more learning opportunities,better speech opportunities,less stress,being able to actual participate in their own community,more attention and the love of a parent or family member.

For some that isn't possible and nursery can be a a good alternative for some who suit it but that isn't the case for all and we shouldn't pretend it is.

Blu · 18/12/2014 21:03

I can't see that it is necessary for 2 year olds to go to nursery to prepare for school, or for 2 year olds to be preparing for school in any way, except by being supported to discover the world through natural play!

A 5 year old has lived almost twice as long as an approaching-3 year old!

CyclopsBee · 18/12/2014 21:05

You have done the right thing OP.
I took my firstborn DD out of a very structured nursery aged 3,( I also worked in early years education) she hated it, screamed and cried the whole session and as soon as it was daylight she would start panicking about the coming day, it's heartbreaking.
By the time she started school, age 4.6 she was still abit clingy at drop off but nowhere near as bad. She soon became a very confident little girl!
I did lots of groups with her, she particularly enjoyed gym type activities and we did lots at home and had friends to play etc
It's amazing how a year or so makes a difference.
Enjoy your time with her at home, she'll be fine Thanks

wanttosqueezeyou · 18/12/2014 21:05

I would be putting in an action plan in the lead up to school so she won't go through this all again when she starts primary

I wouldn't be giving school a second thought. She'll be much older by then, probably wont give you a second glance.

Many, many children go to school without going to nursery first or having a pre school action plan.

HyperThread · 18/12/2014 21:09

YANBU at all. You have done the right thing. Don't let anyone pressurise you or tell you otherwise.

I have visited many nurseries and most have been very poor. I don't understand how parents can happily leave their children there. I am very fortunate that I have the option of not placing my child in nursery.

AlexD72 · 18/12/2014 21:11

You did the right thing by taking her out. Absolutely. No feeling guilty. DD was not happy so it's the best thing to do. If she was not settling she was not happy. You can give her all the attention at home and it sounds like she knows that so didn't need nursery for "new" experiences. Try not to worry about school as they develop so fast over a short space of time. Some children thrive at nursery some children don't. Everyone is different.
Thug act you say your heart is singing is a big give away that you will a lot happier having DD at home with you. You have support that makes a huge difference. Yes you have a PhD in Early years but that all seems to fly out the window when it's your OWN DD.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 18/12/2014 21:12

How a child reacts at 2 is often not the same as how they would react at 5

Squeezepast · 18/12/2014 21:16

I think you have done exactly the right thing. There is no point sending a small child to a nursery if they are unhappy. It sounds like she has a lovely time at home with you.

I really think that the focus on preparing for school is a bit much. You wouldn't send a 16 year old to uni for 3 mornings a week to prepare for going there in the future or your fit and well 70 year old mother to a retirement home for 15 hours a week to get her ready for when she lives in one, so why is it different for little children?

I am not at all anti nursery. My own 3 year old dd goes for two mornings a week and loves it. If they are having fun and learning a bit that is great but I really don't think it matters at all whether she goes or not in terms of being ready for school.

Enjoy your stress free time at home with your dd OP! She will be happier and so will you.

CalleighDoodle · 18/12/2014 21:22

i wanted to say take her out of nursery yesterday but didnt want to interfere! Glad youve made the decision.

Sge can always do preschool at 4. I never understand why people choose to send their child to nursery when they dont need to. Bloody expensive option! Me and my
dc did lots of classes and play groups, then 2 mornings of preschool.

Loletta · 18/12/2014 21:26

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ThePointyAndTheIvy · 18/12/2014 21:26

I think you did the right thing, and I say this as a huge fan of nurseries - for children who suit nurseries, that is.

You've got acres to time until she starts school, she's getting a fabulous home life and lots of opportunities for play with other children. She'll be fine by the time she starts school.

AnnieEdison · 18/12/2014 21:27

I'm another one who took DD out of nursery as she just wasn't ready (at 2.5). She has now done a term at nursery (from 3) and is doing so much better. It is so important to read the child and respond appropriately.

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