Active discussions

Meet the Other Phone. Only the apps you allow.

Meet the Other Phone.
Only the apps you allow.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Talk
AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

Original poster

AIBU to believe in conspiring theorys?

359 replies

FriedFishAndBread · 13/12/2014 12:44

That they never really landed on the moon, the rothschilds and their central banks in every country but two, jfk, Martin Luther King, the Whitehouse has actually admitted assignating malcom x, the pesticides they put in food to kill us and the flouride in water makes us stupid and is rat poised.

I may have been on ig to long... can I please have some common sense or is it true and the world's richest are out to get us and control us.

OP posts:
TinkerbellaPan · 13/12/2014 15:48

Oooh! I love conspiracy theories! Even if I don't believe them, it's still fun to read them Grin

When i originally heard the Sandy Hook/Batman map connection I was Shock but I just googled and this article explains how it's just a coincidence illuminutti.com/2012/12/26/the-batman-sandy-hook-delusion/

Love some of Vigilant Citizen's posts, if anyone else knows of him? Some let him (her?) down and are a bit "don your foil hat", but there's a lot on there which makes sense. FWIW I consider myself intelligent, don't believe in ghosts or psychic abilities or other woo, but I am very convinced by his articles on Monarch programming. Creepy. And his illuminati stuff is interesting too Blush

bottleofbeer · 13/12/2014 16:10

I don't believe I mentioned the names of any documentaries I've watched?

Bulbasaur · 13/12/2014 16:14

Conspiracy theories are for people who feel the need to feel like things are in control. So it's comforting to accept that a government did something horrendous to its people instead of accepting that bad things happen, and can happen again at any time without any warning. That the world isn't as safe as they truly want it to be, nor will it ever be and life is down to a random series of chances.

With a government manipulating its people it puts some form of control and "predictability" in their world.

Bulbasaur · 13/12/2014 16:16

That said, I do love the conspiracies about underground aliens in our US national parks that the government has made an agreement with to hand our people over for experiments. If nothing else its a good mystery as to where these people go or how small children end up miles away from where they initially started if they're found.

bottleofbeer · 13/12/2014 16:19

So people refuse to believe bad things happen, because something bad happened? Ohhhkay.

Viviennemary · 13/12/2014 16:20

I think the moon landings look very dubious indeed when viewed nowadays. And nobody seems to have been back. So I think that's possible. I also read a theory about Fatima that they substitued Sister Lucy one of the children who said they saw the visions with somebody else.

ghostyslovesheep · 13/12/2014 16:24

actually I think it's the total opposite Bottleofbeer I totally believe bad things happen - I don't need to resort to outlandish theories and paranoid delusions to explain why they happen Grin

People have been back to the Moon - 6 times in total with manned missions

Abra1d · 13/12/2014 16:26

Assignating Malcolm X? Assassinating him? Or meeting him?

bottleofbeer · 13/12/2014 16:28

I've not mentioned the moon. I don't think questioning official versions of events from known liars makes me paranoid or delusional though to be fair.

Findingthisdifficult1234 · 13/12/2014 16:30

What is the sandyhook conspiracy theory? What was wierd about it?

raltheraffe · 13/12/2014 16:32

My mum went on holiday to NY several days after 911. In fact it was the first day that they allowed planes to fly to Ny after the attack. I begged her not to go but she told me I was being soft. Anyway the hotel she had booked was the nearest one to the twin towers that was open and trading as the ones closer were shut due to damage. Mum said it was like the film Men In Black. She had booked a room on the ground floor due to poor mobility but she was moved to the top floor. Every room in the hotel had been booked with men and women who wore dark suits and shades even though it was sunny. Mum started asking them who they were and they replied FBI ma'am. She asked them what they knew but they quite rightly refused to discuss it with her. I asked her if it wrecked her holiday and she said no there was plenty of space on the plane and it was like being In a Hollywood movie. In fact it was one of the best holidays she ever had. Mum never really did do sensitivity or respect for the dead

meandjulio · 13/12/2014 16:32

'you would be unreasonable to believe none of them.'

No I wouldn't.

Jimmy Savile wasn't a conspiracy, it was one man plus corruption. Humans are easily corrupted, but usually for very simple reasons.

I agree with Bulbasaur - it is comforting to believe that there are Authorities out there who are all-powerful, and thousands of people efficiently keeping a huge range of secrets. In reality, The Government is lots of people like you and me leaving briefcases in the pub and creating IT systems that have to be written off at £3 billion a pop.

Bulbasaur · 13/12/2014 16:35

So people refuse to believe bad things happen, because something bad happened?

Interesting interpretation.

No, people refuse to believe something bad happened as a random chance for no reason. To them it's terrifying that something bad can happen at any time, with no reason, no warning, to anyone and there is nothing we can do to prevent something bad like that from happening again.

With a government pulling the strings, it gives an "enemy" to defeat. If they just expose the government then bad things won't happen again.

It's just a way to feeling in control of an uncontrollable world. Same reason people need religion really .

ghostyslovesheep · 13/12/2014 16:41

Bottle there are other people posting on this thread - part of my reply was in response to them if you read the thread

no conspiracy

I do question officialdom - regularly - using facts and reliable sources of information - rather than random websites built by people who believe giant lizards rule the world

bottleofbeer · 13/12/2014 16:46

If you believe it was the work of big, bad Muslim terrorists then that's not random chance is it? Nobody disputes somebody planned mass murder. It doesn't make it easier to swallow if you think it was an inside job. Thousands were still murdered and actually I find th thought of it being an inside job worse. So no, questioning it, for my part at least, isn't because I can't face the fact there are terrorists in this world. It's because they didn't convince me with the official version of events.

TheTravellingLemon · 13/12/2014 16:46

Another one that agrees with bulbasaur.

I do think they're interesting, but nothing more. I don't believe the US had any clue that 9/11 way on its way, let alone have a hand in it. They may well have had an idea something was coming, but I think they were taken totally by surprise - as we all were.

I also think the true explanation is often the most boring one. I've worked in politics a long time and have seen MPs accused of conspiracies when the truth is far more boring. Lost communications, double bookings, no phone service...

bottleofbeer · 13/12/2014 16:47

I've never read Icke's forum for anything more than a laugh. You make a lot of assumptions don't you?

raltheraffe · 13/12/2014 16:47

I would love it if someone could explain to me HOW a plane hit the Pentagon. It is the most heavily guarded air space in the world with three concentric sets of missiles the innermost of which is supposed to automatically shoot down anything that crosses it. Were the missiles just having a day off on 911?

Nomama · 13/12/2014 17:00

Maybe the rocket launchers around the Pentagon are the myth, raltheraffe!

Maybe the American's simply couldn't shoot down a civilian plane and kept hoping....

Maybe, as it was flying through a low radar coverage and was, at one point believed to have already crashed, when it re appeared at a greater height and was mistaken for a military plane... maybe they hesitated long enough to ask for a visual check (National Guard plane that had been mobilised) and that visual check confirmed the Boeing had crashed into the Pentagon.

Maybe it was one of the most confusing days ever for American security forces and mistakes were made, some people hesitated and the very little that might have been able to be done did not happen... though what exactly that might have been is anyone's guess.

Maybe it was one of those horrible things that happens because, up until it actually does, no one really every believes it ever could and so any checks and balances are inadequate!

JudgeyHotPants · 13/12/2014 17:25

Flight 93, the plane the crashed in the field,is an interesting one. I've often wondered if that plane was actually shot down? The story about the passengers trying to take back control is a good yarn isn't it? But that's all it is IMO, they needed a heroic story to boost public morale after the attacks

Once they realised they were under attack no way were the US government going to allow a plane to crash into another iconic buidling, it just wasn't going to happen. The intended target was supposed to have been the Capitol buidling I believe?

That's few real stinker for me about 9/11, I believe that everything else happened as we've been told. But something niggles about Flight 93.

raltheraffe · 13/12/2014 17:29

I heard about the rocket launchers on what appeared to be a legitimate documentary. I do not even think military planes are allowed in the airspace. May have been bollocks though so I now need to go back to the documentary and question how credible it was

Nomama · 13/12/2014 17:37

That's the problem with trying to make sense of the impossible, isn't it?

You just can't sort wheat for chaff and it all becomes impenetrable. Which, I suppose, goes some way to explaining why conspiracy theories abound!

At least The Lizards are obviously just stupid twonkery!

bottleofbeer · 13/12/2014 17:45

The Pentagon is like the defence building for the whole of America. Of course it's heavily protected.

BalloonSlayer · 13/12/2014 17:48

I normally loathe and detest conspiracy theories, but having taken interest in the Kennedy assassination due to the 50th anniversary last year, I do think there was probably a conspiracy theory involved there but for Good Reason.

There is credible evidence, later oddly withdrawn, that there was a second gunman. I am happy to explain this if anyone is interested. I am not talking about all the "grassy knoll" crap.

Lee Harvey Oswald was definitely a gunman on the day, IMO he probably fired the fatal shot. He was disaffected, a communist, had lived in Russia, spoke Russian and had a Russian wife.

One communist/Russia loving guy killing the president is a nutter getting lucky. But TWO? Well that would be a communist conspiracy.

I think the US Government took advantage of the killing of Oswald and did not pursue the second gunman. Why? Because, simply, if it had turned out to be a Russian/Communist conspiracy then it probably would have meant World War 3.

Bulbasaur · 13/12/2014 17:53

raltheraffe I'm going to go with the fact that they didn't want to shoot a plane full of innocent civilians. It's the same reason terrorists will strap bombs to children. Soldiers will hesitate to gun down a child.

Flight 93 I'd imagine is probably a boring explanation of the pilots put up resistance and the terrorists lost control of the plane during the struggle.