To think Victoria Secret Angels are just ordinary women?

[RoseCavallari]

Obviously they are beautiful and have amazing figures but they are still ordinary women. They get their body through hard work and eating well.

I was reading some comments on the DM with people saying -

I could never have a body like that as I don't have the time to work out.

These girls obviously starve themselves

That they are lucky to look like that.

We all have the same choices, just like them. They work, they have children, but they make better food choices and have the dedication to work out.

Aibu to think these are ordinary women and the hate comments are most likely down to jealousy?

Well, yes, but it's probably more laudable to work hard at teaching children to read, or doing heart transplants, or putting out fires, or collecting rubbish or researching environmentally friendly sources of energy than it is to work hard at looking good in a bra and pants.

Well cheap pants have their place in the world

But I do agree Molly.

However this thread was started with a focus more on their physical build and whether it is achievable for all women (no) rather than the merits of their job.

Although perhaps more women could achieve the lofty status of a VA if they simply spent less time working hard at being scientists, teachers, doctors and so on and spent more time in the gym.

It's really all about priorities

If we're talking about the merits of the job, it does rather baffle me how winning a genetic lottery and prancing round in knickers end up being better paid than being a doctor,scientist, nurse, teacher, lawyer or indeed pretty much any job with some practical value.

I heard an interview by one them this morning on the radio and they said that at least 1-2 months before the catwalk all she did was gym/exercise regime and ate very little to ensure her body was in top condition and that closer to the catwalk date she stopped having food and just had protein shakes and that once it was all over she was looking forward to having some chips and a sundae.

So to me its a combination of very little food and hard workouts every day.

Compared to other models I can at least say they are better role models in that you can see that its also about exercising and not just about starving yourself.

Sorry if you found my earlier comments "negative" OP, but as a short woman who is bringing up three short daughters I'm finding a lot of the comments on here pretty negative myself.

Shall we all agree to stop calling being taller and narrower than average as winning the genetic lottery

It really isn't. It's just one body type which isn't any better or any more attractive than any other healthy female body type- although admittedly yes, it is better suited to the catwalk.

We don't all find the same look aspirational or attractive. I'd take Scar Jo any day of the week over the VA models.

I luff SaucyJack. Coming as I do from a family of short miners where NO male has lived past the age of 60, I won the genetic lottery by being born a 5' 2" woman. I might actually make it till 65 too!

This is a weird thread.

The modelling industry is full of women who starve themselves, take drugs, undergo surgery and snack on cotton wool balls soaked in water in order to quell hunger pains. All in the name of fitting a very narrow ideal.

Are these women just lucky? Or do they do any or all of the above? You couldn't possibly know.

I am a lot shorter but I have very similar build especially on arms and legs. I don't really do a lot for it tbh its just my natural physique. I can't stand it when people say do you diet? Bet you don't eat x, y, z. I just make a joke out of it or laugh as I eat whatever I want.

It is only hard for the women who it isn't their natural build. I think its offensive to when everyone jokes about this body type not eating. It's been something that winds me up since Primary school.

they won the genetic lottery, no diet in the world would make 99% of the world look like they do. I don't think they are ordinary at all really. I don't feel ill will towards them but think they have it pretty easy walking down a runway compared to someone who is working shifts at a supermarket. there are many people who'd rather go to the gym than go to work.

Interesting that they're 'only' 5"8'-5"9', and not 6" as you'd expect. Having said that, 5"9' (as a woman) in heels is still strikingly tall.

I'm 5"9' (and a half!) and I wear heels most days to work. In pretty much any crowd situation - queuing for something, in a meeting, in a group, I tower over everyone, including the men. The only exception to this will be tall men and 6"+ women (rare), but most of the time, I'm the tallest. I find this odd, because to me, 5"9' (albeit in heels) isn't that tall. My DF, DB and DH are all easily taller than me.

I'm a size 10 so not in the league of these women, but I think when you put 5"9' together with a size 4-6 shape, it ends up looking even taller and slimmer than it actually is.
Tall men don't stand out unless they're disproportionately slim/skinny, whereas this body shape in women is noticeable because the combination deceives the eye into exaggerating both traits.

Why does everyone think that you have to be tall to have a good body? Surely you can be slim and toned but small?
Anyway... To the OP: I'd like to believe that they are just ordinary women and that I too could look like that if I put the effort in, but genetics does play a big part in how they look.

You don't have to be tall to have a good body, but you do have to be tall to be a model, which is what the VS, um, angels are.

Yes , but VA use a specific body type, and Kate Moss would not 'qualify' were she to apply now. KM was also one of the forerunners of the quirky look as the industry was moving away from the Schiffers, Crawfords and Turlingtons of the eighties

a younger KM

Kate Moss is the exception that proves the rule.

And anyway, 'less tall' these days is 5"9'!

amelia tv is the place for small toned people, when you see popstars or tv personalities, you always hear "But she's so tiny!" That would be because tv adds a good stone.

I have the height, but to go without food daily long term while working and bringing up kids is alot to ask! I do miss being skinny every day though.

I think the VS models are short (in model terms) for the same reason that
Page 3 girls are relatively short, the curves are then closer together creating a more va va voom look whereas fashion models are all about the long limbs.

But that's the thing, 5"9' in towering heels isn't short at all. It's way taller than your average page 3 girl, and only slightly shorter than most fashion models.