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To think Victoria Secret Angels are just ordinary women?

171 replies

RoseCavallari · 03/12/2014 12:33

Obviously they are beautiful and have amazing figures but they are still ordinary women. They get their body through hard work and eating well.

I was reading some comments on the DM with people saying -

I could never have a body like that as I don't have the time to work out.

These girls obviously starve themselves

That they are lucky to look like that.

We all have the same choices, just like them. They work, they have children, but they make better food choices and have the dedication to work out.

Aibu to think these are ordinary women and the hate comments are most likely down to jealousy?

To think Victoria Secret Angels are just ordinary women?
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SevenZarkSeven · 03/12/2014 18:57

"They are not real angels and we are all mortals."

Do you really think that the average MNer thinks that these women are "angels"? What on earth?

They are women who work as models who look a certain way who may or may not have healthy lifestyles and work hard in order to maintain that.

The only person I see here who thinks they are "angels" and needs to have reassurance that they are ordinary women like the rest of us, is you.

Your posts are a bit odd, and you don't seem to be reading what people are saying. Most people are just like good looking women do pants modelling and is that news?

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RoseCavallari · 03/12/2014 18:59

I said angels because thats what they are - Victoria Secret Angels. It was a play on that Hmm

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Mintyy · 03/12/2014 18:59

Roffle.

whattheseithakasmean · 03/12/2014 19:00

I think most of us are as capable of being VS models with lots of hard work as we are capable of being rocket scientists or brain surgeons, with lots of hard work.

In others words, obviously you have to work hard, but you have to have been born with the goods in the first place. I am 5'1" so more likely to be a rocket scientist than a VS model, but sadly nor actually capable of being either, no matter how hard I work.

Backinthering · 03/12/2014 19:01

OP no-one here has slagged off these women, what on earth are you talking about?

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RoseCavallari · 03/12/2014 19:01

Anyway they are a billion dollar company I don't think they need to do promotions on a parenting forum. So thankfully I think most people would have the sense to realise I am not on the VS marketing team.

I never even talked about the underwear for a start. So yeah really daft thing to say.

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Mintyy · 03/12/2014 19:01

Rose, the average Mumsnetter does not give a stuff, honestly.

FreudiansSlipper · 03/12/2014 19:03

I agree Minty

but I am concerned about models seen as something for young girls to aspire too

but that is not what you are really getting at is it

Ladyboluna · 03/12/2014 19:03

I don't think they're ordinary women.

Let's think what it means to be "ordinary" nowadays - does the ordinary woman have the same height as them? Same amount of time to exercise? Same budget to buy healthy food and have the time to prepare it?

Weight is not as simple as calories in/calories out. Genetics, conditions and other factors come into play.

Of course a lot of people could have the time and energy to do it - and it is just easier to shove a pizza in the oven instead of making a salad or low-fat meal. But they work hard and have to work out most if not all days. I imagine it's very difficult to do that while working full-time and with young children, limited babysitters and with a tight budget, for example.

They are beautiful and "real" women - but we have a generation of kids growing up who are more scared of being overweight than having an STI and think that all women have to look like this to be healthy. They are part of a bigger picture.

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RoseCavallari · 03/12/2014 19:03

Then why is this thread still going Mintyy?

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Mintyy · 03/12/2014 19:08

Well perhaps some of the other posters are wondering what your point is!

Don't you think its a bit patronising to point out to a bunch of reasonably clued-up forum users that these models are just "ordinary people". What else would we think they are?

OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse · 03/12/2014 19:08

Because people are bored?

To see what you'll say next?

Because some bits of it are funny?

Because some people want to point out their underwear is rubbish?

Because some people want to talk about the wider implications for society of how women are presented in the media?

Lots of reasons Smile

MorrisZapp · 03/12/2014 19:10

Ordinary women my arse. They are genetically lucky and have all day to hone what nature gave them.

NotSayingImBatman · 03/12/2014 19:11

Okay Rose, I give up.

I'm going to assume you just luffs them all so much you can't keep it in a second longer and had to share it with a parenting forum even though you think the members of said forum won't be interested in what the women do for a living. Or something.

And I'm the daft one, apparently.

KatelynB · 03/12/2014 19:36

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RoseCavallari · 03/12/2014 19:40

What else would we think they are?

Strange that so many have disagreed with that fact.

Any time you pop up on a thread I leave. All you do is put others down and disagree for the sake of disagreeing. You are a disgusting person.

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OmnipotentQueenOfTheUniverse · 03/12/2014 20:05

Well saucy said something not very pleasant but that is one comment out of god knows how many. I did ask for more than 5, given the numbers Grin

StillStayingClassySanDiego · 03/12/2014 20:07

These women have been blessed with a face that is beautiful and photographs fantastically well.

They have fabulous figures, due to their success as models they earn vast amounts of money and spend their days keeping up the exercise and treatment to maintain that money spinning face and figure.

In that sense they are not 'ordinary', they are rich in their own right and good luck to them while it lasts, their face and figure won't remain forever!

Victoria Secret underwear looks cheap to me, a hugely successful PR job if ever there was one. .

Alisvolatpropiis · 03/12/2014 20:13

"Disgusting person"

Think you might be going a little bit over the top with that statement Rose.

SirChenjin · 03/12/2014 20:43

Disgusting? Confused

kittykathat · 03/12/2014 21:10

I dont find skinny girls attractive tbh i like kim k, beyonce figures. I just think they are average girls the vic girls.

flippinada · 03/12/2014 21:35

Can I just say, this thread has genuinely made me laugh out loud - I never quite believe that when people type it but here I am doing just that.

Anyway..back on topic, sure I read an article somewhere where a former VS model described the incredibly strict and challenging routine they had to follow for days before one of these shows. It sounded horrendous.

WoodliceCollection · 03/12/2014 21:56

I don't really give a fuck what they look like, but it does seem to me that if you have the time, childcare and money to spend all day exercising/eating salad, you'd maybe be a nicer person if you took a couple of hours of that and spent them on voluntary work for a charity or something instead. Not really sure why you are so desperate that people say 'oooh how wonderful they work hard to look nice'- I work hard to be a good scientist and no one stands about applauding me (in daily mail comments or otherwise), why should they get special treatment just because their job involves fixating on physical appearance?

Alisvolatpropiis · 03/12/2014 22:13

They might do so Woodlice. Nobody has commented on what they are like as people.

Most people work hard at their jobs, scientist or not.

Chandon · 03/12/2014 22:27

Not real angels?!

Flip it

We've been had!

Naughty OP. But it was funny